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See someone try to defend creationism honestly
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he_who_is_nobody
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Ignoring the first half of your post, dotoree, the second half of your post is just one big argument from authority (with a few other logical fallacies thrown in for good measure). It does not matter that most of the great scientific minds of the past were Christian, nor does it matter that Christians started most of the scientific fields. That does not make Christianity true. Those great scientists were great scientists because they were able to use the scientific method, not because they believed in Jesus. This has been pointed out to you many times, so I do not understand why you keep making this fallacious argument.
One other thing, no one here is making the argument that Christianity is at odds with science. Most of the people in the U.S. that accept evolution are also Christian. You were supposed to show evidence for creationism (which is not necessarily a Christian belief). One can be a Christian and accept science; one can be any type of theist and accept science. Stop trying to make this in to a false dichotomy, because no one is arguing the straw man you have created.
One other thing, no one here is making the argument that Christianity is at odds with science. Most of the people in the U.S. that accept evolution are also Christian. You were supposed to show evidence for creationism (which is not necessarily a Christian belief). One can be a Christian and accept science; one can be any type of theist and accept science. Stop trying to make this in to a false dichotomy, because no one is arguing the straw man you have created.
Maybe Christians did help build science, but the minute it started telling them things they didn't want to hear, like how the Earth revolves around the sun or how all life shares common descent, it suddenly disowns science.
I think Doctoree is taking a cue from Venomfangx's latest tactic of trying to give Christians credit for science by formulating the BRILLIANT idea that:
Some guy from hundreds of years ago was smart, and advanced science. He, like most people in society at the time, believed in God. Therefore, Christianity is true and science as it stands in the modern day is irrelevant.
But let's conveniently ignore the fact that even though science is apparently the beloved baby of believers, nobody but believers have had more of a problem with it.
It seems that the likes of doctoree and VFX are saying is that science was better when we didn't know TOO much.
I think Doctoree is taking a cue from Venomfangx's latest tactic of trying to give Christians credit for science by formulating the BRILLIANT idea that:
Some guy from hundreds of years ago was smart, and advanced science. He, like most people in society at the time, believed in God. Therefore, Christianity is true and science as it stands in the modern day is irrelevant.
But let's conveniently ignore the fact that even though science is apparently the beloved baby of believers, nobody but believers have had more of a problem with it.
It seems that the likes of doctoree and VFX are saying is that science was better when we didn't know TOO much.
australopithecus
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Excuses as to why he can't reply in a lengthy reply, copypasta logical falacies...it's like he never went away.
TheFlyingBastard
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Well, Newton believed in alchemy. And if Newton believed it, we should.
Right guys?
RIGHT?
Also, lol @ referring to Daniel 1 to give Christians credit for what a bunch of Jews in Babylon supposedly did.
Right guys?
RIGHT?
Also, lol @ referring to Daniel 1 to give Christians credit for what a bunch of Jews in Babylon supposedly did.
Memeticemetic
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TheFlyingBastard said:
Wow. I never thought of it that way, but... you're right. Your argument is unassailable. I shall retire forthwith to begin my own mission to discover the elusive philosopher's stone.
kenandkids
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Memeticemetic said:
It's not elusive, satan ordered the evilutionists to protect it and it is currently in PZ Myers underwater lair. He has large attack squid protecting it...
Next week is Dawkins turn, presumably on a mountain with one steep side and one gradual slope, with hoards of apes as guardians...
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Well, dotoree, you've done it yet again: come back - sort of - filled with excuses, fired off some random stuff (to leave people hanging or something?) and then run off again for an unknown amount of time.
You've somehow managed to piss off a forum filled with primarily atheists, strangely not because of your creationist arguments, but because of your behavior. I guess that's some kind of achievement?
Anyway, once you do come back for good, if ever, it's not gonna be in this thread. This thread is now filled with junk, a whopping 48 pages of it. No one will want to read all of that to try to make sense of what kind of argument is actually going on, and the arguments you have put forward are long forgotten in a fog of excuses about some court case and personal stuff.
Sooo.... I'm locking it.
Once you come back, if ever, you're free to start a new thread, of course. But please, do us a favor and come back ONLY when you have time to make regular, stable contributions.
Thank you.
Well, dotoree, you've done it yet again: come back - sort of - filled with excuses, fired off some random stuff (to leave people hanging or something?) and then run off again for an unknown amount of time.
You've somehow managed to piss off a forum filled with primarily atheists, strangely not because of your creationist arguments, but because of your behavior. I guess that's some kind of achievement?
Anyway, once you do come back for good, if ever, it's not gonna be in this thread. This thread is now filled with junk, a whopping 48 pages of it. No one will want to read all of that to try to make sense of what kind of argument is actually going on, and the arguments you have put forward are long forgotten in a fog of excuses about some court case and personal stuff.
Sooo.... I'm locking it.
Once you come back, if ever, you're free to start a new thread, of course. But please, do us a favor and come back ONLY when you have time to make regular, stable contributions.
Thank you.
)O( Hytegia )O(
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This discussion never had any credibility from the start. I actually sat down, and decided that I was going to spend some time sorting through this 42 page discussion - and I made it this far before drawing my conclusion that nothing new nor genuine would be presented.
It's the trademark of stupid.
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