Science vs Evolution by M. Bowden

[DukeTwicep]

Why would we need to use evolution to disprove something that effectively disproves itself?

 

[ClockworkFox]

. . . relativity alone is not sufficient to hold the universe together.

Would you mind providing clarification? I could easily be missing something, but that doesn't appear to make a great deal of sense as written.

 

[malicious_bloke]

Oh no, not this idiot again.

I've seen his videos on YT, to my mind he looks like a survivor of multiple lightning strikes...that would probably explain the lunacy of his stance.

Anyway, the polystrat trees thing has been shown to be bull so many times it's not even mentioning and flood geology is just :roll:

I'm not sure I could stomach the whole book, if I did i'd have to set about it with a marker pen to highlight corrections, unreferenced nonsense then use a page at the back to point out sources for refutations of ALL of it then send it back to the author.

 

[Frenger]

I think it is a very sad situation, that Christians feel the need to try and use creation science to prove God. Also I think it is a very sad situation that non believers use evolution to try and disprove God.

Evolution doesn't disprove a god and as far as i know atheists don't use it diprove gods. Atheism is simply saying we don't see any evidence for a monotheistic god and therefore choose not to believe in one. Evolution is a good example of evidence against monotheism because it shows H. Sapiens weren't created, we evolved.

The problem arises from the way God was presented in the Old Testament. According to Jesus, these people didn't know God and presented him in a hateful manner because they thought that God was just like them.

It's not just how he was presented, it is the actions he takes, genocide, both the endorsment of and action of, the endorsement of rape, slavery and violence. The punishment of thought crimes and the punishment of the innocent. These are either true or not, saying he was "misrepresented" does nothing. If you believe that the Old Testament is the word of god, then we have to believe that he was also a bit of a bastard, if however you say it isn't true then we have no evidence for any creation science, and that goes for the flood too.

They used their so called God given laws to murder Jesus and yet Christians today claim that these Old Testament laws and ways are God inspired thanks to the Roman Emperor Constantine who produced thy first ever Bibles and pronounced them "Holy".

The bible is man made, I can go along with that.

The theory of evolution has come into being as a result of of a people who misrepresented God's character because they didn't know what God was really like and so an alternative to creation was desirable.

Nope, the theory of evolution is a direct result of the mountains and mountains of evidence. It has nothing to do with religion.

If you are interested in science and are reading this post, then all I ask is this. Don't accept the popular theories without question. For example, the theory of heliocenricity has problems because relativity alone is not sufficient to hold the universe together.

Citations please.

Relativity has a problem because the "constant" speed of light has been exceded.

Again, citations please

Life cannot start on it's own on this planet.

That depends on what you mean. It is unlikely that in this Oxygen rich environment we have now Life could form from inorganic matter, however, in the early earths atmosphere, it could and did. Please to see the Miller-Urey experiment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller–Urey_experiment

If life were able to start on it's own 4 billion years ago then at the rate at which genetic mutations occur, the first simple cell would only be 43% complete.

Citations please, and what do you mean by 43% complete. 43% compared to what standard?

But none of this proves God. That's not what this post is about. It's about asking you to question what you are told is true.All I ask is that you open your eyes to the scientific information that is available and enjoy...

As a creationist (I hope that's right, please excuse me if I have gotten it wrong) I would ask you to do the same. Science is beautiful because it is natural. I couldn't enjoy science knowing it was designed. That's not the reason I don't believe in a god however, but it is the reason I love science.

 

[Prolescum]

Oh no, not this idiot again.

I've seen his videos on YT, to my mind he looks like a survivor of multiple lightning strikes...that would probably explain the lunacy of his stance.

Come on mate, surely you know the difference between calling a stance idiotic and another member an idiot?