Save my baby with your faith

[JustBusiness17]

I'm sorry to break my hiaatus but noticed this hasn't been discussed yet. More like digust :!:

I saw a report about another faith healing experiment gone wrong and couldn't handle it past the photograph. I don't even know who is holding the baby. If this doesn't make you angry, you're half way to infanticide.

I just remembered where my own "faith" came from :!:


Edit: I can't post the link. I'm not talking about tame stuff here.

 

[TheFlyingBastard]

So you saw a report about faith healing gone wrong, and you don't know anything about it but the picture was horrible and if we aren't outraged we're half-way to infanticide?

 

[JustBusiness17]

So you saw a report about faith healing gone wrong, and you don't know anything about it but the picture was horrible and if we aren't outraged we're half-way to infanticide?

I doubt the story is more complex than I anticipated (Edit: nope, not at all). Feel free to reserve your outrage until you happen across the article.

 

[TheFlyingBastard]

Missing the point, I see?

You just told us "I've seen something horrible about a baby in faith healing and if you aren't outraged you are half-way on your way to infanticide. Google it."

And you have no idea what's wrong with that?

 

[CosmicSpork]

I'm sorry but this thread is all but pointless.

You can either try to recover it by actually posting something of worth, or I'll happily lock it... with a blatantly obvious explanation as to why, in big red letters if you like.

 

[quantumfireball2099]

Yeah, please post the link if possible or explain the article with at least some depth.

 

[JustBusiness17]

Well twist my arm... I guess once you look past the neglect and insane reasoning of this baby's parents, this is just a medical illness that can be discussed as such.

This 8-month old baby's name is Alayna May Wyland and she is suffering from a fast growing mass of blood vessels known as hemangioma- apparently the most common type of tumor. Normally hemangioma is left untreated with the exception of cases where breathing or vision are compromised. The tumor is also treated/removed for cosmetic reasons - In the short term, the photo explains why, and in the long term because the severe skin stretching of an untreated case of hemangioma can leave visible skin changes on a patient. Oral corticosteroid therapy has been the traditional treatment although research published in mid 2008 which outlined the use of propranolol has improved the effectiveness and safety of treating cases of hemangioma. There are also secondary lines of treatment available should these courses fail to work. A topical treatment can also be used in less severe cases and I would assume early onset cases.

In severe cases where medical intervention is delayed, surgery is necessary to correct the irreversible structural changes. This includes reconstructive surgery required to reposition the facial features which have been deformed by the pressure of the tumor on a growing infants skeletal structure. These are all things that Alayna's parents could have learned within 5 minutes on wikipedia had they simply unclasped their hands to see what Human's can do for their child. Alas, Timothy and Rebecca Wyland were greedy for a miracle and now it's unknown whether Alayna will ever have vision in her left eye again. The immense pressure of the tumor has pushed her eye down and outward for an unspecified length of time. It's too early to know whether or not corrective surgery will be required...

Gilmartin asked Rebecca Wyland why she didn't take Alayna to a doctor.

"Because I believe in God and put my faith in him," she replied.

"If DHS never came into your lives ... at what point would you have accessed medical care," Gilmartin asked Timothy Wyland.

He did not answer the question directly and said he puts his faith in God. If his daughter did not improve, "that's his will," he said.

Child welfare workers got a tip in June that Alayna was suffering from an untreated medical problem. A DHS caseworker took the child to the hospital June 30, and Alayna has been in a foster home since being discharged July 5.

Source: http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2010/07/judge_wont_return_baby_to_foll.html

This is a not a sad instance of an unanswered prayer. This is a textbook case of medical mistreatment and neglect, with photographs to answer the questions that words cannot.

Over the past three decades, more than 20 Oregon children whose parents belong to the Followers of Christ church have died of treatable illnesses, according to the state medical examiner's office. Yet Oregon grants special leniency to faith-healing parents, singling them out favorably in state policy and protecting them from being charged with certain crimes.

Source: http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/susan_nielsen/index.ssf/2010/07/faith_healing_in_oregon_a_pict.html

Grotesque!!! <--- Big red letters!

 

[TheFlyingBastard]

"But remember guys, we must always be respectful of people's religions."
No.

Look, people. I don't care if you believe in Yahweh or Allah or Cuchulainn for all I care. But don't expect me to respect it when your asinine beliefs become harmful to others.