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Responding to "Jesus loves me" or "Jesus loves you"

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DontHurtTheIntersect

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For any who are always hearing this from creationists, fundamentalists, or Christians in general, here's a scenario that you can run them through:

Christian: "Jesus loves you ( me)"

You: "How do you know that? Did he say that to you?"

Christian: "Jesus loves all of us"

You: "How would you know that?"

Christian: "I know because of the Bible"

You: "But he didn't actually say it to you, or me, did he?"

Christian: "I just know it is so because of the Bible"

You: "What if I were to tell you that Jessica Alba (if it's a girl, substitute Alba for a male celebrity) loves you deeply.

Christian: "No she doesn't"

You: "Why don't you think so?"

Christian: "Because she didn't say it to me, nor has she ever spoken to me"

You: "But what if I told you it was written in a book, and that it says Jessica Alba loves not only you, but all of us"

Christian: "Just because it says it in a book doesn't make it true"

You: "So, why is it that when I tell you that I read in a book that Jessica Alba loves you, that you don't believe me, because you are unconvinced due to lack of evidence but, when told the exact same story, with a demigod substituted in the place of Alba, you require no evidence, and believe it without question?

I have done this two times to two different people, and the only response I get is "You just have to believe", which is code for "you just have fall into a persistive vegetative state".
 
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I think I think too much of the christians, but could they honestly be that stupid?
Also, they will probably defend the bible by saying that it's the word of god.
 
arg-fallbackName="TurboDally"/>
Heres a nice quote I remember heaing from the atheist experience:

Theist: I'll pray for you
Atheist crew: We'll think for you :)
 
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Theists usually just say that the Bibble is special because it is the word of God. I've tried multiple times, to point out to christian that their logic of "Bibble is the word of God and God exists because the bibble says so" is circular reasoning and as such flawed.

The bottom line is: Theists are not logical. They force their mind to jump trough all kinds of illogical hoops in order to justify the existence of God. Many of them even admit that, after all faith is by definition "belief without evidence." For a true believer your words make no difference because he believes. If you want to change his mind you'd have to convince him that he could actually be mistaken, which in many cases is all but impossible.

That's why debating with theists is often so damn frustraiting: Both sides are playing the game by different rules.
 
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TurboDally said:
Heres a nice quote I remember heaing from the atheist experience:

Theist: I'll pray for you
Atheist crew: We'll think for you :)
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Love it!

As per the original topic, this can be taken further. They may say that the bible is not like other books because it is authored/inspired by god. You then ask them how they know this and they'll say cuz the bible says so, at which time you slap them and scream CIRCULAR REASONING in their face........or just explain that to them, either way I suppose.
 
arg-fallbackName="Giliell"/>
Christian: Jesus loves you!
Atheist: Poor guy, unanswered love is a sad thing.

Really, when a discussion has reached that point , you don't need to bother with reason and logic anymore.
 
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Re DontHurtTheIntersect:
The interesting question to me is "why do they find the notion of God/Jesus' love so comforting?", along with the "You're a part of God's grand plan" argument as well...
 
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I would think a fairly clever theist would have responded "Jesus loves you because you are one of God's children" or some shit.

I assume this "Jesus loves you" comment is intended to persuade you somehow. Imagine if Scientologists responded to your skepticism by saying "LRH loves you, ya know". :|
 
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Catch22 said:
I assume this "Jesus loves you" comment is intended to persuade you somehow. Imagine if Scientologists responded to your skepticism by saying "LRH loves you, ya know". :|
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Sometimes it is an offensive and rude attack. That's when "get cancer and die" comes out. It takes skill to turn the idea of eternal love into an insult, but Christians can do it, right along side "I'll pray for you."
 
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ImprobableJoe said:
I usually reply either "and Santa loves you!" or "get cancer and die." :lol:
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Im going to start with "get cancer and die" if you dont have copyright on it ;)
 
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Catch22 said:
I would think a fairly clever theist would have responded "Jesus loves you because you are one of God's children" or some shit.
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If we're all God's children... what's so special about Jesus then...? o_O
 
arg-fallbackName="dveeant"/>
sometimes I like to reply " tell him I'm flattered, but I'm not gay", or "not as much as Ganesha does".
 
arg-fallbackName="briscoe123"/>
I recently downloaded a documentry called the God that Was'nt Their, which puts forward a pretty good argument thats says Jesus never actually excisited, hes just an addaption of an anciant story thats excisted for thousands of years - worth a look :D
 
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I tend to really upset people who ask questions like that..

C "Jesus loves you!"

Me: "I'm not into homosexual necrophilia. Next time you see him tell him to stop stalking me!"

C: "Jesus loves me."

Me: "You and everyone else.. sounds a bit slutty to me."

C: "Jesus loves everyone!"

Me; "Ahh, so this jesus person is a nymphomaniac?"

C: "Have you been born again?"

Me; "I don't think my mother would agree to that."

C: "Have you given yourself to jesus."

Me; "Are you talking about slavery or do you mean sexually?"

...... any comment regarding god and the bible ......

"I reject the 'we're living in God's ant farm hypothesis'."
 
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