Religion poisons everything, how does it 'poison' you?

[televator]

Well that sounds like....church Sunday school. If your kid wants to stay with his friends maybe it's up to you to inform him of alternative views? Not that it's my place to tell you what to do.

What a terrible thing! This is why scrutiny of religion is necessary. Things of this sort need to be discussed openly.

Well actually I ended up convincing one of his friends parents to give him a note too so now they both have a buddy to hang out with in the library. It's stupid though - jumping through hoops like that for religion.

Oh and I got his friend to ask the teacher the "if god can do anything can he make a boulder so big that even he cant move it" question. My son didnt want to ask it but he did and well.... "yes god can move it" was apparently the answer!


And yes it's disgraceful. I feel so bad for the parents but there's really nothing anyone can do. I'd love to speak to the guy and tell him how selfish and inconsiderate he and the church are being but obviously it's not my place.

If we were in the same area, I'd high-five you right now. :lol:

Well, even without talking to the guy directly, the situation is worth bringing up and raising awareness of as an example in public discussion.

 

[nemesiss]

with regards to those churchbells.
If the exceed the amount decibel that they are allowed to produce, the court can force the church to either stop ringing those bells or that those bells produce less noise.

just like with that guy who has "jesus leeft" (translation: "jesus lives") written on his roof with rooftiles.
He has to remove that text, though what i read lately is that he wanted to just change the color of those tiles in order to keep the text, but i doubt he can get away with it in the long run.

 

[Story]

just like with that guy who has "jesus leeft" (translation: "jesus lives") written on his roof with rooftiles.
He has to remove that text, though what i read lately is that he wanted to just change the color of those tiles in order to keep the text, but i doubt he can get away with it in the long run.

Well, that's not really fair. If he wants to do something with his own rooftop I think that should be his prerogative, no?

 

[TheFlyingBastard]

Well, that's not really fair. If he wants to do something with his own rooftop I think that should be his prerogative, no?

Depends on who owns the house. A lot of people in Holland hire.

Edit:
Okay. I've read up on it. It's not that the message is religious. It's how blatant it is. Apparently it falls under advertising without a permit, which is usually fine, as long it doesn't change too much.about the landscape . If he, for example, would've put it in a darker tint instead of bright white-on-black it wouldn't have mattered too much. Or he could've just requested a permit and it would've been fine.

 

[Laurens]

I think the main way it poisons things for me is in terms of my relationship with my mother. She is a Christian, and she feels like she has failed somehow as a mother in raising a non-Christian child. Don't get me wrong we do get along okay, but recently she seems to have taken a strong dislike to my owning a copies of books by Richard Dawkins, and other books on subjects that she disapproves of. She recently lent me 'Shattering the Myths of Darwin' by Richard Milton and 'Science vs Evolution' by M. Bowden. Its been creating some conflict, she seems to disapprove of everything I do now, and we have been fighting lots, not about religion, but I can tell that it is a contributing factor in her disapproval of the choices I have made, and the way I do things.

I love my dear mother, and I really don't want her to feel like she has failed because I am not a Christian, but on the other hand, I couldn't simply be one just to please her. I don't like the unnecessary strain it is putting on our relationship. I try my best to show her I can be a good person, but she doesn't seem to approve of anything. There isn't much I can do to stop her feeling like she has failed as a parent, but really she hasn't, she couldn't have been a better mother to me, its a real shame that she is having this anguish because she is religious and I am not. I don't think it does either of us any good.

 

[godisabullet]

If we were in the same area, I'd high-five you right now. :lol:

Well, even without talking to the guy directly, the situation is worth bringing up and raising awareness of as an example in public discussion.

He he he. Atheist parent stirring up the kids. At least I know they're not going to just accept crazy Christian logic without question.


Yeah I guess if thats all a person can do it's still worth doing.

 

[lrkun]

Which religion are you refering to? A specific one, a few, or all?

 

[Lallapalalable]

• There are no stores open on sunday!
  I live in the Dutch bible belt with (offcourse) a lot of Christians in the city council. the only store open is a gas station (because hey, we need to drive to church on Sunday). this sucks for 2 reasons. 1 : If I need something I need to drive to a big city or wait a day. 2 : Most of the youth here works in supermarkets. Who would want to earn a extra buck on Sunday. Even the public transit is halved on Sunday!
  
• they try to take away my music.
  Like most people I have a soft spot for (what is for me) good music. One of these styles is metal (in it's broadest form). A yearly returning problem is the heavy metal festival 'Elsrock' outside a small town. the organisers of the event fight every year for a metal festival for the community. But most of the time the city won't give a permit without a court order (the festival is around the same time as a piratefest inside the town which the same noise as Elsrock.)
  And this is just one instance. If you walk in the town with lets say an Iron maiden or Black Sabbath shirt some evangelicals will surely try to convert you.
  
• the bells on sunday morning.
  How come the local pub needs 2 thick doors to make sure nobody hears the sounds coming from inside but the church 300 meters from my house gets to wake my up on a Sunday at 8'o clock?

Ill start off by comparing your grievences to my day to day experiences:
Most stores are open, except for liqour stores (might as well be every store),or privately owned businesses that choose to close, and I dont have a problem with that mainly because I live right next to a mini-metropolis of three cities, so there are literally thousands of things to do on any given day.

The only people taking my music away are the stingy whores from Clear Channel; they have it set up so that its damn near impossible to book a headline band anywhere around here. However, I dont believe I have seen a heavy metal band play within 90 miles of where I live ever (and there's a substantial fanbase), so maybe the religious are just doing a very good job. :?

and I like the bells As far as the noise thing goes, I think time of day applies to the preference given (although I wouldnt mind donating some soundproofing services to a few places ).

And there are many more things religion (or it's followers) do around here which annoys me(some store owners give discounts to other Christians)
And in what ways does religion involve your day to day live? And how do you deal with it?

To the meat:
*While not in-your-face about it, they do have an air of snobby, holier-than-thou attitude. They usually wont pester you, and Ive only ever been approached about god from some kid who was a friend of a friend. Mostly, though, if they're even aware of your heathen ways, they let you be.

*I live next to a town called Nazereth.

*And a city called Bethlehem.

*There's an Egypt too, for some reason.

*The morning radio dj is christian enough to bring it up in debates.

*Kate, from "John and Kate plus Eight", came to a bible store thats nearby, and I like to blame that one, that I was within a mile or two of that harpy, on religion.

*The retarded testimonies and bullshit stories given in the "Local" and "Letters to..." sections in the various newspapers in my region.

So, yeah, after holding these two lists together, I think I more or less won the sociological lottery for anywhere on earth at any time in history.

 

[Lallapalalable]

Which religion are you refering to? A specific one, a few, or all?

I think its safe to say that most people on this forum are exposed predominantly to christianity, and that any other religions would be specified.

 

[lrkun]

Which religion are you refering to? A specific one, a few, or all?

I think its safe to say that most people on this forum are exposed predominantly to christianity, and that any other religions would be specified.

Peer pressure to pray. Boss pressure to pray. Endless mention of the term prayer in cases of difficulty.

Yes, I physically cringe when someone mentions a bible quote, prays, or believes in the nonsense of Christianity.

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[Story]

Okay. I've read up on it. It's not that the message is religious. It's how blatant it is. Apparently it falls under advertising without a permit, which is usually fine, as long it doesn't change too much.about the landscape . If he, for example, would've put it in a darker tint instead of bright white-on-black it wouldn't have mattered too much. Or he could've just requested a permit and it would've been fine.

Oh I see... that makes sense then.

 

[SirYeen]

Like most people, I live near a church. I also live near a pub. I'm neither affected by Christians or drunks.

Religion doesn't poison everything, it doesn't have big enough teeth to even draw blood from me.

Just because you chose not to drink it doesn't mean it isn't poison. I do agree that the title doesn't fit the article though.

How religion affects me :
* The relationship with my parents sometimes gets tense because I refuse to be christian.
* I learn tons of bullshit at school. We aren't just studying scripture or looking at the religions. Christianity is sometimes just boldly stated as the truth. Now I must mention that I go to a Catholic school. Why ? Because it's a good school, teachings are better than in state schools.
* The bells ofcourse
* No shops on sunday. Although this can be a good thing I guess. Having a universal day off promotes non-workaholicism and makes it easier for people to socialise.
* They are in the news paper daily atm because of the pedopriests. Its even worse where I live because our pedopriests (who was my teacher religion only years ago) is a pedopriest helping out a pedobishop.
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[Daealis]

Wow. You think things you got something to deal with until you hear these stories and realise you were the lucky one.

*Whilst not directly affecting my life, I'm annoyed by the articles readers send to the local newspapers and the ongoing effort not to give gay marriage the same legal status straight marriages already have. But that's about it. Random letters in papers and similar random mindless opposition to some laws that would've been abolished centuries ago with reason.

*Currently, small grocery stores are allowed to keep their doors open more loosely than the larger ones here. Smaller stores can be open every day from 0700 to 2100. Usually stores are open everyday, for atleast 6 hours. Oddly enough, with the laws allowing for open sundays(been effective for years now), saturday is in most stores the day with the least hours open.

*I keep on hoping I'll get stopped by someone preaching my evil ways, but I think it's now been 3 years since I've talked to any street preacher, and that guy was just giving out pamphlets and not equipped to argue(ignored me like he had a quota to fill with spreading the paper clippings). And I do tend to dress for the occation, usually slapping on my inverted cross and all black clothes when going for a walk, just trying to piss off a believer. Since they won't attack a "normal" guy, I thought provoking might do the trick and get a conversation going. But no.

*I don't like concerts, so it doesn't affect me that much. I learned that KISS(or some other as big a name) was denied access to the nearby venue(ice hall/concert hall/exhibition hall) and no other reason was given but that the owners didn't want it. The place is majority owned by a local pentecostal movement. That was a big hit for the fans, but they found another venue somewhere in a ~200km radius.

Guess we got it pretty good here.