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Psychics

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ImprobableJoe said:
If there's a real claim, the person making the claim should be able to present evidence. If they can't, we have no good reason not to ignore their claims.

Isn't that what I said? <3
 
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pigu0606 said:
... (ONCE UPON A TIME...)

-Her abilities came about overnight when she was 7.

-She attends a special school for the gifted during weekends... some of her classmates also share her abilities.... i know, i know, sounds so X-men!

Ok, deconstructing this.

This reads like a chapter from a book - it has all the elements... Suspense, linear storyline, exploring the various dramatis personae... Oh yes, using a lot of "..."

C'mon... You're a sensationalist fantasist. If you truly witnessed these events and you were truly skeptic, you wouldve thought of a number of possible explanations that have nothing to do with psychic powers, and even if you still would've been baffled, you surely wouldn't have shared this experience in the way you did: by writing something that belongs in Readers Digest.

Still, produce the "special school for the gifted". Where, why and how?

"I know i know, sounds so X-men!" yeah that is quite the hollywood thing right now isn't it. And so desperately you want to have some part in something like it. Wake up call: it's all fantasy.
 
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I'm not sure if anybody has heard of this, but there was a Russian TV-show, it was called "the battle of extremeness", they picked dozen of psychics and put them into tests. half of them failed straight away, mostly people with silver-painted hair and wizard-looking grannies. but several of them proved pretty good, i don't know but it didn't seem like a spectacle to me. so anyways, i watched just two series, they took these people to some soldier's grave, give them his picture, and showed place where he was found dead (the murder case hadn't been solved). there were 3 of them left, and one guy, age of 20-25 did quite a good job.

I've been told that the show had such unexpected success that they have decided to make more of it. what i think is that, Psychic phenomenas are true.
 
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MachineSp1rit said:
I've been told that the show had such unexpected success that they have decided to make more of it. what i think is that, Psychic phenomenas are true.

You have to be really careful with believing what you see on TV. Always remember that mass media is all about money so the more traffic to their programs, the better. It's about format, scripts, a bit of mystery and sensationalism, some good editing here and there and look, a successful program is born. It's entertainment, nothing else. The program obviously wants to come off as "convincing", but seriously doesn't care to prove anything. I don't believe that.
 
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yeah i don't want to sound like that. i don't watch TV at all to be honest. i just said the way it was. Why i believe it was, that the parents of the dead soldier seemed too honest (mother cried) so i don't know, she didn't look like an actress, almost everybody seemed ordinary.
 
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First thing I thought was twelve phychics guessing, and one of them seems pretty convincing - a pretty dismal success rate, really.

Second thing is if the mother was really there it lowers the amazement factor a bit. Ever heard of cold reading?
 
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When I was a teenager I used to read people with a tarot deck as a bit of a lark. It uses cold reading. I would start with the description of the card given by the manufacturer. As soon as something was said that was personal, they'd react. They shift, their eyes move, etc. As they react, you can narrow in on what they want/expect to hear. There is always a trick to it, even if the "tricker" doesn't realize they're using one.
 
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Aught3 said:
First thing I thought was twelve phychics guessing, and one of them seems pretty convincing - a pretty dismal success rate, really.

Second thing is if the mother was really there it lowers the amazement factor a bit. Ever heard of cold reading?

the tests were different every time, and every time one who failed most was kicked out. all three were good but one of them especially, i don't really care to be honest.
 
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MachineSp1rit said:
II've been told that the show had such unexpected success that they have decided to make more of it. what i think is that, Psychic phenomenas are true.

You should watch all of Derren Brown's shows, paying attention to how he states that there is nothing supernatural or magic at work, and then go back to any apparently successful "psychics" with an air of ubercriticism. If Derren can do the stuff he can do just with his brain and body, then so can other people.
 
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