ArthurWilborn
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... disturbing.
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Yeah... but as a fan of Monty Python I think it is fucking funny as hell. Of course, I can see right-wingers having a problem with this because they:WarK said:I'm still confused.
Was that a case of the British humour?
This kind of stuff doesn't necessarily translate well to other cultures.
Prolescum said:That's not disturbing, it's hilarious. Incendiary images to promote an important cause is a very old technique; ever seen an Oxfam advert with malnourished, sick children asking for ,£3 a month? Same thing.
My city, and its residents, have been a part of the 10:10 initiative for some time.
ArthurWilborn said:Also, I don't see any way that "Agree with the group or be murdered" can be portrayed as funny.
ArthurWilborn said:Prolescum said:That's not disturbing, it's hilarious. Incendiary images to promote an important cause is a very old technique; ever seen an Oxfam advert with malnourished, sick children asking for ,£3 a month? Same thing.
My city, and its residents, have been a part of the 10:10 initiative for some time.
Eh... I never found graphic violence to be funny, no matter how over-the-top it is.
Also, I don't see any way that "Agree with the group or be murdered" can be portrayed as funny.
ArthurWilborn said:Also, I don't see any way that "Agree with the group or be murdered" can be portrayed as funny.
Oi! Arthur! Are you having trouble with your eyesight?ArthurWilborn said:Eh... I never found graphic violence to be funny, no matter how over-the-top it is. Also, I don't see any way that "Agree with the group or be murdered" can be portrayed as funny.
Welshidiot said:The add was removed from the 10:10 website not long after it was first posted. I believe that's known as "self regulation".
Btw, it was directed by Richard Curtis, who many of you will have heard of as the writer of "Four Weddings and a Funeral", or "Notting Hill",.....but what you should probably really bear in mind is that he is one of the co-creators of "Blackadder".
Prolescum said:ArthurWilborn said:Eh... I never found graphic violence to be funny, no matter how over-the-top it is.
Sorry mate, but so what? Doesn't change what it is. The target audience were Brits. It's a lampoon of that form of advertising, simple as that. I can see why you might not think the gore is funny, but by the same token, it's clearly not meant to be taken seriously; you might not see the joke, but the tone and concept are so obviously taking the piss I'm a little surprised that otherwise clever folks didn't at least do a double-take, the tongue is so firmly rooted in the cheek it's probably hard to see past the leaves or something.
People seem to forget that visual media has a grammar all of its own...
Also, I don't see any way that "Agree with the group or be murdered" can be portrayed as funny.
I don't see why I should grant that criticism any validity. You've interpreted it as "you don't agree with the group, therefore you die" when the intent (and my evaluation on first viewing) was that doing nothing means certain death. Not quite true (the certain death bit), but they're attempting to shock people out of apathy. If your criticisms were that they've failed monumentally, it would have some force... but your argument seems to rest on:
I do agree that they misjudged the audience, but that you find it tasteless doesn't make it the chilling true face of global warming advocates. Not that that's what your "disturbing" comment (and the thread title) necessarily inferred... My interpretation could be mistaken. I'd better check first... Are you a climate change denier, Arthur?
ArthurWilborn said:Ok, I'll accept that me not finding the humor might just be cultural. However, I could say the same for racist jokes.
The fact that you accept extreme violence against those who disagree is an appropriate source of humor is in itself disturbing.
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The coyote in the Road Runner cartoons suffers as the result of his bad choices
My official position is still "I don't understand the physics well enough to come to an informed decision."
Given that what I see from the Green movement is a lot of human bashing and fraud, I'm not inclined to take it on their word.
Anyway, even if I did agree with it I would still find "conform or be killed" to be a bad way to advance my position.
Anyway, you're demonstrating the Al Gore Effect - just because I'm criticizing this doesn't mean I'm deriding an entire cause.
The fact that you accept extreme violence against those who disagree is an appropriate source of humor is in itself disturbing.
Making out that because I understand the joke I "accept extreme violence against those who disagree"? That's pretty desperate, dude. This is patently absurd and you know it.
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The coyote in the Road Runner cartoons suffers as the result of his bad choices
As do we. This is the point being made (albeit not very well), and the one you're attempting to gloss over because it suits you.
My official position is still "I don't understand the physics well enough to come to an informed decision."
If I may, precisely how much effort have you put into understanding it? Also, how many fields of science do you understand well enough to make informed decisions on? Are you against magnetic resonance imaging? Stem cell research?
Given that what I see from the Green movement is a lot of human bashing and fraud, I'm not inclined to take it on their word.
I would like examples of "human bashing" (whatever that is) and fraud please. Preferably the same sources you base your reticence on.
Anyway, you're demonstrating the Al Gore Effect - just because I'm criticizing this doesn't mean I'm deriding an entire cause.
I didn't say you were deriding "the cause", I was making a point about misinterpretations. Anyway, your criticisms are both innaccurate and tainted.