Political Irony/Hypocrisy

BoganUSAFFLClerk

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Biden says if you are on the terror watchlist you shouldn't be able to fly or possess firearms. Yet in his latest debacle both things are true. People on the terror watchlist obtained firearms and those on the flight out of Afghanistan also are listed under the terror watchlist.
 

BoganUSAFFLClerk

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Post heavily edited footage of Biden's comment conveniently leave out the moments where Biden shows weakness and partially breaks down.

More complete footage of Biden of the same speech.

Biden is a toothless incompetent. He is worse even compared to the Bushes and Gerald R Ford in many aspects. He is nothing but an old fool and even an impeachment is worse considering the likely replacement would be.
 

BoganUSAFFLClerk

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Hilarious considering they found Scott Israel to be head incompetent that made the MJS shooting possible.

Scott Israel has since been indefinitely suspended January 11, 2019. Israel was to blame for missed signals and systemic failures at the Broward Sheriff's Office that could have prevented or mitigated the shooting in which 17 people died and 17 more were injured. In particular, the governor cited the inaction of sheriff's deputy Scot Peterson, the school resource office on duty at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School who failed to respond to the gunshots and never entered the school that day. Israel gave the order to not enter the school and to immediately deal with a known shooter.

Isn't it ironic that the very people spouting what to do in fact did not do their job.

 

he_who_is_nobody

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Its common knowledge. The sky is blue. Trump boasts and smiles as he boasts. Give me a break. Stop being a waste of time.

Claims made without evidence can and will be dismissed; if you want us to believe what you are saying, back it up with a proper citation.

The point is something more minor than Covid and you could be sitting in the hospital for more than 1 day.

And would you call that winning?

Or your brain doesn't work. Literally doesn't say anywhere in the thread that I didn't have coverage currently. It says that Obamacare hasa 600$ mandate even if you get no coverage. The mandate ended years ago. I wonder what that implies? Things can CHANGE.

Well, you said you used to pay the mandate, and you also said you work three part-time jobs, thus a safe bet that you are one of the millions of uninsured in the US. Until you can demonstrate otherwise, I will let those two facts stand on their own.

Not the point at all, so that I will ask it again. As someone without insurance, do you think ending up faceup in a hospital bed for two nights is not a threat? Having experimental procedures done on you while faceup in the hospital for two nights is not a threat? No one is arguing that Don Corona died of the CoViD so that you can put that straw away.
Irrelevant conditions don't apply.

Your refusal to answer those elementary and straightforward questions speaks volumes.

Ah so spending two nights sitting in a hospital bed is winning? Your previous statements imply the former.

Those would be what your comments imply that. Please keep up. I am trying to get you to realize that, and it seems it is working.

You are not in good shape if you are in the hospital correct?

Yes, one would not be in good shape if they are in the hospital; see, you can learn.

Do you think such actions are WINNING or LOSING?

That would be losing. See how easy it is to answer direct questions?

Obviously Trump got out of the bed and no longer has Covid. Meaning he won.

We were so close, and then you lost the thread again. But, again, no one said Don Corona never left the hospital. So the fact that he spent two nights face up in a hospital bed would be winning or losing? We are so close based on your previous answers. I believe you can figure this one out.

Any meaningful border has walls.

Does Tennessee have border walls?

Guess how effective your property rights would be without walls?

Private property is not the same as a border of a nation or state.

It isn't a straw and stop deflecting because you are losing.

I was not aware we were playing a game.

Is the U.S. border being upheld without the presence of a wall? No. People cross continually violating said U.S. border. What do walls protect? Anything important.

And the majority of them do that by overstaying their visas. A border wall will do nothing to stop that. If illegal immigration were what you were actually worried about, you would be trying to address the real problem. However, we both know it is not, thus why you want a wall on the southern border.

Liking border walls is admiring China? Yea I must idealize North Korea because of their arms build up as an FFL clerk too huh? Ridiculous argument.

Honestly, it would not surprise me. Most authoritarians admire authoritarian regimes. 'Tis also adorable that you really think anyone thinks you are an FFL clerk.

Shoulda could woulda. I don't care about should be done. Remember what the title of the thread is. It is political hypocrisy. Therefore I am going to interpret any and all shouldas as what they are doing as this is the purpose of the thread. The whole point of the thread is to list off ironies in the political world not what SHOULD BE DONE. Its irrelevant nonsense to me.

Fair enough. However, ironic since all your responses to me have been shoulda coulda woulda.


The first video is about breakthrough cases and covers how the vast majority of them lead to people having mild to no symptoms. So it does not support your claim that people are spreading it more when they are vaccinated. Do you even check the citations you are providing? Your second video is from Dr. Suneel Dhand covering an opinion piece from The BMJ; enough said.

Not only OP. Also not really doing much as people catch Covid and get symptoms regardless. Pushing through of approval weather Emergency or not and having mild to serious side effects isn't something I want considering the odds of me dying due to covid and risking an unknown.

Yet, neither of your citations show either of those to be the case.

This is also what I refer to as other consequences of vaccinations.

Do you mean mild to no effects if you catch the CoViD, as your only good citation says?

There are people who literally are recommending to wear 1-3 masks.

Yes. Do you know the reasons why? You realize that your ignorance is not an argument, right?

People whom are wearing masks inside their own homes or private spaces like their vehicles.

I do not doubt that some people are doing this, but why do you care what people do in their own privacy?

People are suggesting to wear masks while dining out which is stupid you are eating and getting food all over the mask which could get in your food which you will then directly allow into your body.

A citation is needed for this one. That is not how dining works in my state, but I am not from Tennessee.

Did you even read that citation before sharing it or just the title? Because the article does not back up your claim. However, what else would I expect from an anti-vaxxer. Much like with creationists, when they do cite sources, they always contradict the claim made.
You do realize that allergic reactions could mean the difference in your IMMUNE SYSTEM correct? What do you think immune systems have to do with catching Covid? If you have an allergic reaction that results in a HIES that could effect how effective you can fight off Covid.

Again, thank you for proving that you are not reading the citations you provide; what else would I expect from a faithless antagonist. Your citation has nothing to do with allergic reactions. Beyond that, there are already medical exemptions for people with allergic reactions, thus all the testing.

They also made an attempt and were BLOCKED. They still rewrote it and removed the mandate which is the primary point of contention of Obamacare.

Thus, you agree they failed to follow through with their original promise, even though they had enough Republicans to do it?

Which do you think people care more about? A) 600$ fee during tax time due to Obamacare. Or B) Listings of available Obamacare approved and sanctioned insurances? Its A.

Non-sequitur to the irony I am pointing out. Would you please stop with the coulda shoulda woulda?

Republicans deregulated carrying firearms meaning smaller government. It proved it in spades.

Citation needed.

Compare red states to blue states and compare regulations between both then tell me who has bigger governments.

Again, you are missing the point of the irony I am pointing out. I would not expect the Democrats to have a smaller government. They do not use small government as a talking point like Republicans. My ironic point is that Republicans always use small government as a talking point yet fail to make that a reality.

Obama had those resources already for him. Trump didn't have those resources for him. It is up to the current president to maintain resources they USE.

I wouldn't blame a president to say be low on guns and not have them when the previous LOST BILLIONS in firearms because of their incompetence.

Not the knots I thought you would make, but still, I love how you fail to address the point that Don Corona had three years to address this error from Uncle Berry, yet failed. However, I wonder how long it will be before you contract this position.

Don Corona tells the truth, yet his followers boo him.
 

BoganUSAFFLClerk

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Hm Democrat falsifying voting records. Isn't that ironic also not the first time.

Also an example of armed resistance of the citizenry against a tyrannical government. Newly freed soldiers from WW2 came back and flat out squashed the tyrannical Sherriff in Athens, TN.
 

BoganUSAFFLClerk

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Claims made without evidence can and will be dismissed; if you want us to believe what you are saying, back it up with a proper citation.



And would you call that winning?



Well, you said you used to pay the mandate, and you also said you work three part-time jobs, thus a safe bet that you are one of the millions of uninsured in the US. Until you can demonstrate otherwise, I will let those two facts stand on their own.



Your refusal to answer those elementary and straightforward questions speaks volumes.



Those would be what your comments imply that. Please keep up. I am trying to get you to realize that, and it seems it is working.



Yes, one would not be in good shape if they are in the hospital; see, you can learn.



That would be losing. See how easy it is to answer direct questions?



We were so close, and then you lost the thread again. But, again, no one said Don Corona never left the hospital. So the fact that he spent two nights face up in a hospital bed would be winning or losing? We are so close based on your previous answers. I believe you can figure this one out.



Does Tennessee have border walls?



Private property is not the same as a border of a nation or state.



I was not aware we were playing a game.



And the majority of them do that by overstaying their visas. A border wall will do nothing to stop that. If illegal immigration were what you were actually worried about, you would be trying to address the real problem. However, we both know it is not, thus why you want a wall on the southern border.



Honestly, it would not surprise me. Most authoritarians admire authoritarian regimes. 'Tis also adorable that you really think anyone thinks you are an FFL clerk.



Fair enough. However, ironic since all your responses to me have been shoulda coulda woulda.



The first video is about breakthrough cases and covers how the vast majority of them lead to people having mild to no symptoms. So it does not support your claim that people are spreading it more when they are vaccinated. Do you even check the citations you are providing? Your second video is from Dr. Suneel Dhand covering an opinion piece from The BMJ; enough said.



Yet, neither of your citations show either of those to be the case.



Do you mean mild to no effects if you catch the CoViD, as your only good citation says?



Yes. Do you know the reasons why? You realize that your ignorance is not an argument, right?



I do not doubt that some people are doing this, but why do you care what people do in their own privacy?



A citation is needed for this one. That is not how dining works in my state, but I am not from Tennessee.



Again, thank you for proving that you are not reading the citations you provide; what else would I expect from a faithless antagonist. Your citation has nothing to do with allergic reactions. Beyond that, there are already medical exemptions for people with allergic reactions, thus all the testing.



Thus, you agree they failed to follow through with their original promise, even though they had enough Republicans to do it?



Non-sequitur to the irony I am pointing out. Would you please stop with the coulda shoulda woulda?



Citation needed.



Again, you are missing the point of the irony I am pointing out. I would not expect the Democrats to have a smaller government. They do not use small government as a talking point like Republicans. My ironic point is that Republicans always use small government as a talking point yet fail to make that a reality.



Not the knots I thought you would make, but still, I love how you fail to address the point that Don Corona had three years to address this error from Uncle Berry, yet failed. However, I wonder how long it will be before you contract this position.

Don Corona tells the truth, yet his followers boo him.
You are a waste of time it is nothing but gish galloping. Did Trump beat Corona virus? Yes yes he did. There problem solved.
 

he_who_is_nobody

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he_who_is_nobody

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You were literally the one questioning it. Gish Galloping.

Yes. Asking you to provide proper citations for your claims is not a Gish Gallop. You make a claim, and you provide a citation for it. That is how this works.

Gish Galloping.

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Led Zeppelin

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No one is going to take your guns - Argument.

So if you have a semi auto ban and the vast vast vast majority of what Americans own ~90% are semi automatic just because you retain 10% of what you had before means they didn't take your guns?

No one really needs to take your guns from you now because so many Americans are spineless and have turned there backs on God. America will pay the price for the murder of unborn children. You will only have worthless leaders now and your economy will be destroyed. No one trusts the US now, since the fall of Afghanistan. Saudi Arabia will look now to Russia and China for military protection and this will lead to the eventual end of the US petrol dollar. The war against the US will be an information and economic war and the US will lose.

The US will not provide effective assistance to it's NATO allies. Turkey will join with Russian and China. The Taliban has declared China to be there closest political ally. The Taliban will be used to secure future gas and oil pipelines and to invade western Europe. The idea that having transexualls and confused gendered people is good for an army will prove to be a lie. The soldiers western Europe will face will be made up of the harden youths of China and Russia. Europe is not battle ready. France is a nuclear power but has a weak lead and it's whole country is disarry because of covid laws.

The EU is finished and the US is finished. There is no army here in Germany that can defeat 15,000 Taliban army that is full of soldiers fighting barefoot in the mountains for the last 20 years. You might think "How is that possible" But in reality it is very possible. I would bet 1000 dollars that 15000 Taliban soldiers can take Germany.

So you can keep your guns now. But I promise you every single thing the US and the EU is doing right now is all about their surrender. It's over. You are spitting in the wind.
 
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Led Zeppelin

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Do you even realize that there are countries that have hardly any murders compared to the US and you dont have to go to jail for 6 months for being drunk in public. And the police dont go around bothering people. Why do you think it should not be the same way in the US?
 

BoganUSAFFLClerk

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No one really needs to take your guns from you now because so many Americans are spineless and have turned there backs on God. America will pay the price for the murder of unborn children. You will only have worthless leaders now and your economy will be destroyed. No one trusts the US now, since the fall of Afghanistan. Saudi Arabia will look now to Russia and China for military protection and this will lead to the eventual end of the US petrol dollar. The war against the US will be an information and economic war and the US will lose.
Notice your main complaints are against the Democratic party not the Republican party?
The US will not provide effective assistance to it's NATO allies. Turkey will join with Russian and China. The Taliban has declared China to be there closest political ally. The Taliban will be used to secure future gas and oil pipelines and to invade western Europe. The idea that having transexualls and confused gendered people is good for an army will prove to be a lie. The soldiers western Europe will face will be made up of the harden youths of China and Russia. Europe is not battle ready. France is a nuclear power but has a weak lead and it's whole country is disarry because of covid laws.
Democrats....
The EU is finished and the US is finished. There is no army here in Germany that can defeat 15,000 Taliban army that is full of soldiers fighting barefoot in the mountains for the last 20 years. You might think "How is that possible" But in reality it is very possible. I would bet 1000 dollars that 15000 Taliban soldiers can take Germany.
Taliban fighters literally hold an ak around a corner and fire blind. If it came down to infantry vs the Taliban the infantry would win thanks to them actually know how to fight. The problem comes when soldier are hamstrung due entirely because of politics.
So you can keep your guns now. But I promise you every single thing the US and the EU is doing right now is all about their surrender. It's over. You are spitting in the wind.
Coo coo clock.
 

BoganUSAFFLClerk

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I brought up irony, and you were triggered by said irony; I then asked you to justify your triggering with proper citations. If you think I am Gish Galloping, then what are you doing?
It is unrelated to the political ironies. Against my better judgement I actually responded to irrelevant things. When it is about examples of political irony brought about by politicians. So again irrelevant.
 

BoganUSAFFLClerk

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Do you even realize that there are countries that have hardly any murders compared to the US and you dont have to go to jail for 6 months for being drunk in public. And the police dont go around bothering people. Why do you think it should not be the same way in the US?
No you literally don't serve time in jail just for being drunk in public that isn't true.
 
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