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Political decoder ring

Aught3

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When listening to politicians talk I often substitute the word they use for the word they really mean. This helps me to understand the point they are truly making and at least see the consistent internal logic of their arguments rather than dismissing them as merely ridiculous.

Two of my favourite are:

"Family" = Patriarchy
Examples - Family First, Focus of the Family, Defend the Family
Decoded - Patriarchy First, Focus on the Patriarchy, Defend the Patriarchy

"Jobs" = Profits
Examples - We must implement policy X to create jobs, Social program Y is a job killer
Decoded - We must implement policy X to create profits, Social program Y is a profit killer


What are yours?
 
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"Terrorist"

"Anyone we don't like, and an excuse to do whatever we like"
 
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Oh yeah, that's a good one.

"Terrorist" = Democratic opposition

and, often

"Democratic opposition" = Terrorist
 
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"Family Values"

Being anti-gay while sleeping with hookers behind your wife's back (sometimes male hookers).
 
arg-fallbackName="Prolescum"/>
"Hard working" people - used as a proxy, usually by conservatives, to excuse scapegoating the poor and the uneducated.

I have tons more, but my fingers are cold.

Sent from my Commodore 64
 
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Prolescum said:
"Hard working" people - used as a proxy, usually by conservatives, to excuse scapegoating the poor and the uneducated.

I have tons more, but my fingers are cold.

Sent from my Commodore 64
This reminds me of the way politicians invoke a majority of citizens that supposedly endorse what ever the politicians happens to be talking about at the time.

The Iranian one is "the ordinary Iranian people".
I see it all the time from American politicians and I'm sure they must do it here too.
 
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Aught3 said:
This reminds me of the way politicians invoke a majority of citizens that supposedly endorse what ever the politicians happens to be talking about at the time.

The Iranian one is "the ordinary Iranian people".
I see it all the time from American politicians and I'm sure they must do it here too.


In my view nothing does this more than the notion of

"Middle -Class"

meaning everyone except Sir Richard Branson.
 
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“War on Christmas” – Other people believe different things and I have to deal with them.

It still amazes me that people (Fox Noise) brings this up every year. This year was the worst I have ever seen (“Santa and Jesus were white, deal with it.”).
 
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he_who_is_nobody said:
“War on Christmas” – Other people believe different things and I have to deal with them.

It still amazes me that people (Fox Noise) brings this up every year. This year was the worst I have ever seen (“Santa and Jesus were white, deal with it.”).
And then that one talking head going on about how you can't change facts to make yourself feel comfortable. It was the most ludicrous display of self-ignorance I've ever seen.
 
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Aught3 said:
he_who_is_nobody said:
“War on Christmas” – Other people believe different things and I have to deal with them.

It still amazes me that people (Fox Noise) brings this up every year. This year was the worst I have ever seen (“Santa and Jesus were white, deal with it.”).
And then that one talking head going on about how you can't change facts to make yourself feel comfortable. It was the most ludicrous display of self-ignorance I've ever seen.

"Changing facts so you can feel comfortable" is Fox Noise's unafisual slogan. that whole incident was a giant example of Fox protecting their faults onto the rest of the world.
 
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Entitlement programs = government money given to the poor

Example We need to cut entitlement programs to lower the deficit. We need to cut government money given to the poor to lower the deficit.

This one is obvious cause they never refer to farm subsidies or business bailouts as "entitlement programs." "Entitlement programs" are almost always used as a euphemism for programs like social security, unemployment, or food stamps. They have to use these euphemisms otherwise their voting base will get upset.
 
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Rando said:
This one is obvious cause they never refer to farm subsidies or business bailouts as "entitlement programs." "Entitlement programs" are almost always used as a euphemism for programs like social security, unemployment, or food stamps. They have to use these euphemisms otherwise their voting base will get upset.
Oh yes, this is very two-faced especially when you consider that both subsidies and tax-breaks have very similar economic effects.
 
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This one is true in the Netherlands
"2de Kamer Debat"=lets insult the person who disagrees with me.
 
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"Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime"

I wanted to punch someone (Tony Blair) when I first heard this one. It basically means "we'll evaluate and reform the 1,000+ year old justice system by allowing judges to invent crimes and apply them to anyone not in the middle classes or above, particularly teenagers. The little bastards."

"Manage expectations" -

Straight out of the mouths of our Golgafrincham friends (middle managers and business people), this one. You have to admit the courage and bald-faced openness of it, though. It means "to spin bad news to make it palatable to electorate/shareholders".
 
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These political figures, this...."government" needs to be brought down and re built...

Upset the established order http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSag7N8xfT8&feature=youtu.be
 
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These political figures, this...."government" needs to be brought down and re built...

Upset the established order http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSag7N8xfT8&feature=youtu.be
 
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I am aware that this is an old topic, I would like to respond anyway, in full cognizance that the user probably does not even lurk anymore. The link has stopped working.
MrRevolution said:
These political figures, this...."government" needs to be brought down and re built...

Upset the established order http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSag7N8xfT8&feature=youtu.be


I hear this kind of thing all the time, and although I am some kind of social libertarian, revolutionary thought seems to be a major problem. instead of a dilligent critical engagment with the parts of society you disagree with, people would like to dismantle large swathes of it, which seems to me to create more problems than it solves.

By govervment, do you mean the paty currently in power, the institution of government in the state, or the state itself?

If the first, then you are saying that we should reform the conservatives, but it is up to the party itself to do that, and if you dont agree with them don't vote for them. if you are conservative and don't like some of their policies you can always try to
change them either internally or externally. The first by becoming a conservative candidate, if that is not practicable, then you could try getting other conservatives together in the community to put pressure on them.

If you mean the institution of government in state, then you mean its relationship to other parts of the state. I would say that is better to reform or to restructure the institute slowly, otherwise there would be a lot of confusion. I think the same applies to the state itself; even under communist russia, they could not do a wholesale removal of institutions and when they tried it caused so many problems and was a disaster.
 
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Lots of othering code names here in Oz: Illegal Immigrants = refugees desperately looking for help. Greenies = anyone getting in the way of big business concerns (used to be communists).
 
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