Pocketing $250,000

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

http://www.drdino.com/read-article.php?id=66&c=17

I am not joking. I'm actually going to do this - after I return from my deployment, I'm going to use some of my down time to bring forth studies relating to Evolution right up to him, and basically spend the entire time debunking his entire page before him.
I might not get myself $250,000 - but I will have on record that he does not understand a single shred of the Scientific method, or any form of biology what-so-ever.

Please people... I'm being totally serious about this. I was going to use my time to head over to Europe, but I've actually changed my plans in light of this challenge.

 

[Aught3]

This is a shell game.

Prove beyond reasonable doubt that the process of evolution (option 3 above, under "known options") is the only possible way the observed phenomena could have come into existence.

Not only do you have to disprove all alternatives that this idiot would present, but you also have to disprove all possible alternatives. Not just showing that evolution happened but that evolution was the only way it could have happened.

 

[nasher168]

:?
The thing is that he's made it deliberately so that no one can claim it:

Prove beyond reasonable doubt that the process of evolution (option 3 above, under "known options") is the only possible way the observed phenomena could have come into existence. Only empirical evidence is acceptable

His choice of wording means you need to prove categorically that there is no possible way the Judeo-Christian god could have had a hand in it.

EDIT:
dammit Aught...

 

[JustBusiness17]

It's a win-win for Hovind. If nobody claims the prize (based on the unscientific nature of his challenge) he'll consider it a win for creationism. If he does pay out, he'll be able to claim it as a tax write-off...

:lol: @ Hovind

 

[Deleted member 499]

One small problem

NOTE:

When I use the word evolution, I am not referring to the minor variations found in all of the various life forms (microevolution). I am referring to the general theory of evolution which believes these five major events took place without God:

1. Time, space, and matter came into existence by themselves.
2. Planets and stars formed from space dust.
3. Matter created life by itself.
4. Early life-forms learned to reproduce themselves.
5. Major changes occurred between these diverse life forms (i.e., fish changed to amphibians, amphibians changed to reptiles, and reptiles changed to birds or mammals).

The first 3 points aren't even evolution related. In order to win this you would basically need to provide evidence of large parts of modern physics as well as evolution. You would also need to research every possible stupid comment or piece of misinformation he could come up with beforehand.

 

[No1Mensan]

If you showed Hovind a video of the Big Bang Happening in real time and a video of each and every creature on the Planet being born, he'll only keep moving the goalposts.

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

You think it would be possible to bring about the point that in the Scientific community, which he claims to be a part of, the Big Bang has NOTHING TO DO with Evolutionary Theory - because one is quantum mechanics and physics, whereas the other is biology and the diversity of life. Also that abiogenisis (within the Scientific community that the Doctor claims to be a part of) has nothing to do with Evolution because Abiogenisis is the Origin of Life, whereas the Evolutionary Theory is the diversity of Life after whatever happened for everything to get here.

I doubt it's acceptable, but I COULD do a substantial amount of investigation into all of those fields and present them ALL -
But, no matter what he says, I can provide 4 and 5 very easily (and give a mathematical proof that if he moves the goalposts on 5 that he's being retardedly unreasonable).

ALSO - this is his Son, not Kent Hovind himself (though everything is exactly the same as I left it). I still hold hope for the human race that it could be POSSIBLE that there is but a tinge of reasoning left within his mind... That when I present him with the evidence - evidence that can be widely described as the most accurate thing we have to date - and on the reverse side debunking all of his shit-stupid hubris (if you read the wording carefully, I have to debunk his useless shit - which I could manage with help from thunderf00t's videos) with cold, hard, empirical evidence - maybe there's still some hope for Humanity after all.

 

[nemesiss]

i say; go have your eurotrip, its will be way more rewarding.

Like its already stated, its a freaking trap.

Observed phenomena:
Most thinking people will agree that..

A highly ordered universe exists.
At least one planet in this complex universe contains an amazing variety of life forms.
Man appears to be the most advanced form of life on this planet.

Yes, anything with shit for brains, will be called PINECONE.

This is the first thing i already have a problem with and its right at the top of the argument.
science doesn't care about people's opinion.
additionally, i doubt the universe is highly ordered
and humans are CERTAINLY NOT, THE most advanced life form.
whales are more advanced, ants are more advanced, penguins are FUCKING more advanced!

as for the whole goal post, let it stay there.
If we keep forcing them to move the goalpost, it'll become harder to deal with them.
Lets keep them in their little bubble of ignorance and focus on the real issue, making sure the CHILDREN get it right.
those who are indoctrinated can't (or with way too much effort) be persuaded by evidence.

if we advance and they don't, eventually the difference becomes too great to cross that they either concede or die out.
Be realistic, even if you could come up with a conclusion that they would HAVE to pay you the sum of $250.000 ... it would be so much information, it would be impossible to read through it. and the net value of it would then ATLEAST be $250.000.000 taking into account all the time, effort and research spend on it.

 

[RichardMNixon]

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Kent_Hovind

His other challenge:

Hovind has recently posted a new offer on his website.
I would like to announce my $100,000 offer to anyone who can prove the American Revolution happened. I require three simple things.
The first is proof that at least three of the major battles of the American Revolution happened. Acceptable proof can be either color photographs or eyewitness accounts by a reliable witness of those battles (of course, I must be permitted to interview the witnesses or examine the photographs to eliminate the possibility of fraud).
The second thing I require is proof that George Washington cut down his father's cherry tree as a child. I will accept, as proof, a copy of the New York Times article from that period describing the incident.
The third thing I require is evidence that the intent of the American Revolution was to establish a communist government. Acceptable proof would be notarized statements by at least two of the major figures of the Revolution expressing their admiration for Karl Marx.
My offer demonstrates that the so-called American Revolution hypothesis is nothing more than a religious belief since the adherents can't provide even the most rudimentary evidence that it ever happened. As such the only reasonable conclusion is that the American Revolution is a Satanic False Consciousness, created to dupe people into believing the myth of Church State separation

Impossible, irrelevant, false; it's a pretty spot on description of what Hovind wants. Hovind doesn't understand evolution, perhaps willingly. If you try to prove it to him, he will ask you to show him a transitioning* form, prove that Darwin wasn't a racist, and prove that frogs can turn into birds.

* Has anyone ever shown a transitional form to a creationist and got a response along the lines of "You can't prove that's transitional?" I feel like some of them expect a lizard fossil which will grow wings and a beak as they hold it in their hand.

 

[JustBusiness17]

ALSO - this is his Son, not Kent Hovind himself (though everything is exactly the same as I left it). I still hold hope for the human race that it could be POSSIBLE that there is but a tinge of reasoning left within his mind...

Honestly, you're talking about reasoning with a person who was (in all likelihood) brainwashed since the age of 0 by the most dubious of creationists. Beyond that, you're talking about simultaneously snatching $250K from the guy while destroying his lucrative business. Not likely mate :lol:

But if you want to waste your time attempting the impossible instead of going to Europe, why not? Aim for the stars

 

[ExplorerAtHeart]

 

[Dragan Glas]

Greetings,

RichardMNixon, given Hovind's (Jnr) "Second Challenge", it should be just as easy to prove that the Creation didn't happen.

Acceptable Proof:
Eyewitness account from God or Adam (or any other life-form created by God at the time of the alleged Creation) - we, of course, reserve the right to be able to interview any of these entities (divine, human or not).

Kindest regards,

James

 

[RichardMNixon]

Greetings,

RichardMNixon, given Hovind's (Jnr) "Second Challenge", it should be just as easy to prove that the Creation didn't happen.

Acceptable Proof:
Eyewitness account from God or Adam (or any other life-form created by God at the time of the alleged Creation) - we, of course, reserve the right to be able to interview any of these entities (divine, human or not).

Kindest regards,

James

Those interviews have already been conducted. Turns out god inflated his accomplishments just a little.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/sumerians-look-on-in-confusion-as-god-creates-worl,2879/