Physics of Homeopathy

[borrofburi]

Hi Raistlin,
I perceive that your university didn't teach you logic

And I perceive you have no concept of epistemology.

I've yet to see one conclusive well controlled scientific study that says homeopathy does work.

 

[Karma Singh]

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Who needs homeopathy when you have a...plastic...chip...card thing...

Yes, you may purchase it and, provided that you follow the usage instructions, you will experience considerable benefits or get your money back. Just do it. Make sure that you enter your country properly to get the right pricing.

If you want to understand it, however, you will HAVE to study quantum physics, informational resonance and Quantum Field Theory. Dependent upon your dilligence, it may be possible to converse upon it within three to five years. You will not, however, have any experience with the technology. Just like television, you can either spend years studying electronic engineering or press the button and experience it. Which is more useful to you? Just like homeopathy, you can either study it or experience it or both. Refusing to do either is just silly.

Blessed be

Karma Singh

 

[Karma Singh]

I've yet to see one conclusive well controlled scientific study that says homeopathy does work.

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Well, of course, if you don't take the trouble to find them then you won't see them. There's no-one out there looking for uninformed people to whom they can hand the results of proper studies.
All you need do is to write to the Homeopathic Hospital in London and I'm sure that they will give you that which you're trying to avoid. They have, after all, been using it successfully for more than 100 years.

Blessed be

Karma Singh

 

[scalyblue]

If homeopathy works, why wouldn't it work in a lab situation? If homeopathy works, why don't people die when they get botox injections? If homeopathy works, why aren't gunshots treated with leaded water?

I've already proven you're a dishonest hypocrite; and you're shifting the burden of proof. It is nobody's responsibility to prove that homeopathy doesn't work, it is your responsibility to show that it works better than placebo, why it works, what can be extrapolated from that method of its working, and in what situations it doesn't work in.

There is no null hypothesis in homeopathy, no baseline by which things can be measured by.

Oh, by the way, I am fully capable of conversing with you on the subject above your knowledge level. You see, I am right, and anybody who disagrees with me is wrong. That's my quantum state; my neural pathways exhibit information resonance with the worldwide network, and until it's damaged beyond the henfrick limit I will always be smarter than you are.

If I were you I'd stop this farce before somebody reports your little racket to the authorities in London for fraudulent medical claims.

 

[borrofburi]

I've yet to see one conclusive well controlled scientific study that says homeopathy does work.

Well, of course, if you don't take the trouble to find them then you won't see them

You're presenting the positive position while I am holding to the null hypothesis (i.e. that I won't accept it works until provided evidence that it does), it is thus your burden of proof. Saying "the evidence is out there" is not evidence, and, honestly, just gets you laughed at as either a pretentious jerk or a lying bastard.

 

[scalyblue]

mm, from the shitty tenament housing you live in and run your business out of, I'd say that you don't have many customers anyway.

 

[Karma Singh]

Hi Raistlin,
I perceive that your university didn't teach you logic either.
Just what DID you learn there?

And I perceive you have no concept of epistemology.

No, quite right. I stopped getting pissed whilst still a youth.
What's your favourite tipple?

 

[Raistlin Majere]

I'm still waiting for my evidence... All i see is dodging and the refusal to accept the burden of proof.

 

[borrofburi]

And I perceive you have no concept of epistemology.

No, quite right. I stopped getting pissed whilst still a youth.
What's your favourite tipple?

Haha, I laughed. Anyway, epistemology has nothing to do with getting drunk, and you would be well served to click the hyperlink and read up a little on it.

 

[Raistlin Majere]

Haha, I laughed. Anyway, epistemology has nothing to do with getting drunk, and you would be well served to click the hyperlink and read up a little on it.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The fact that... How could you...

I'm at a loss for words. I have nothing to say to this. :facepalm:

 

[Karma Singh]

I've yet to see one conclusive well controlled scientific study that says homeopathy does work.

Well, of course, if you don't take the trouble to find them then you won't see them

You're presenting the positive position while I am holding to the null hypothesis (i.e. that I won't accept it works until provided evidence that it does), it is thus your burden of proof. Saying "the evidence is out there" is not evidence, and, honestly, just gets you laughed at as either a pretentious jerk or a lying bastard.[/quote]






Hmm. Interesting statement. Would be classed as paranoid actually if you tootled along to a psychiatrist.

"My refusal to look for evidence is proof that it does not exist."

Sounds quite paranoid to me.

Add to it the verbal abuse and we see that you really do have problems.

Well, you can try the zombie drugs from your pharmaceutical heroes but avaialble evidence shows that they only make things very much worse. Try homeopathy; it can't do any harm and is very likely to greatly improve your life.

Blessed be

Karma Singh

 

[Raistlin Majere]

EVIDENCE, DAMN YOU!

Why can't you get that through your thick skull?

As a community founded around the understanding of scientific evidence, we are not going to just do it because you say it's better.

You know what? I forgot to mention, you should stop breathing the air the way you are. Breathing air through your nose and mouth takes in a lot of toxins and just makes things worth. Hold your nose, cover your mouth with duct tape, and try breathing through your ears. Trust me, it works and it's much better for you. Try it, what could it hurt? It could greatly improve your life! (and ours) *cough*

 

[ImprobableJoe]

Oh hey, look at that, the whois for karmasingh.com indicates a name, a street address, and an email address that shows other business affiliations.

Apparently the owner of karmasingh.com is also the CEO of harmony united, a company that makes profit on alternative medicine. --GASP-- Does that mean..that... the same site being promoted by a person with the same name as the domain claiming that pharmaceutical companies are evil because they work for profit is also promoting alternative therapies to make a profit? Go figure.

I'm glad the holder of the domain karmasingh.com isn't necessarily the same person as the person on this forum promoting the site, or I would be violating forum rules by revealing this information about the domain owner of karmasingh.com

So he's a PROFESSIONAL LIAR and con artist, and he's here spamming and hoping he can find people stupid enough to buy his nonsense. Great.

 

[Karma Singh]

If homeopathy works, why wouldn't it work in a lab situation? If homeopathy works, why don't people die when they get botox injections? If homeopathy works, why aren't gunshots treated with leaded water?

I've already proven you're a dishonest hypocrite; and you're shifting the burden of proof. It is nobody's responsibility to prove that homeopathy doesn't work, it is your responsibility to show that it works better than placebo, why it works, what can be extrapolated from that method of its working, and in what situations it doesn't work in.

There is no null hypothesis in homeopathy, no baseline by which things can be measured by.

Oh, by the way, I am fully capable of conversing with you on the subject above your knowledge level. You see, I am right, and anybody who disagrees with me is wrong. That's my quantum state; my neural pathways exhibit information resonance with the worldwide network, and until it's damaged beyond the henfrick limit I will always be smarter than you are.

If I were you I'd stop this farce before somebody reports your little racket to the authorities in London for fraudulent medical claims.

Hi Scaly,
where on Earth did you get the peculiar idea that homeopathy doesn't work in laboratory situation?????

Homeopaths don't use toxic substances.

The explanation as to why pharmaceutical botox injections mostly don't kill can be found on http://www.wikipedia.org This has, however, absolutely nothing to do with the subject (homeopathy) in hand.

Homeopathy is not a suitable treatment for gunshot wounds. Allopathic medicine, i.e. first aid, is much more appropriate.

Oh no sunshine, the burden of proof lies always with the proponent, never with the defendent.
The proponents have presented no evidence and seek to get out of their responsibility by shifting the burden of proof to the defendents. I have told you where to get the evidence as an act of kindness but have no obligation to do even this. It is up to you to prove your hypothesis. So far, you have made no attempt to do so. I perceive, further, that you don't know what placebo means either! It is actually, the most common proof that pharmaceutical medicine doesn't work. They spend millions each year to distort the concept and you've bought into it.

"no baseline" really, you need much better evidence than obvious bullshit to get anywhere.

I'm sorry that I pushed your immaturity button but I was, actually, trying to make you a helpful offer. I'm sorry that I did not appreciate that you would not understand it. Please accept my appologies for overestimating you.

I have made no claims whatsoever. I have merely stated that my own experience is that homeopathy is very effective and pointed out to you where you can get further information. This is, at the moment anyway, not a crime.

Blessed be

Karma Singh

 

[scalyblue]

Yeah pretty much nothing more than a spammer. It's within his financial interest to promote his snake oil, and he thinks because he uses a fake name he's not liable.

His own experience in homeopathy is irrelevant, as is any and all personal experience irrelevant when it comes to empirical evidence. I'm not going to waste my time with Niocan II here. I'm waiting for him to find even one legitimate double-blind study that shows that homeopathy is of a greater effectiveness than placebo, and I know he can't because there's no such study, the founding precepts of homeopathy are complete and utter bullshit and anybody who actually believes in them is, sadly, stupid enough to pay 200 dollars for a piece of plastic that will make them golf better.

 

[borrofburi]

"My refusal to look for evidence is proof that it does not exist."

I'd appreciate it if you did not put words into my mouth, especially in inverted commas that indicate it's a direct quote, it is a fundamentally dishonest thing to do.

 

[Raistlin Majere]

"My refusal to look for evidence is proof that it does not exist."

I'd appreciate if you did not put words into my mouth, especially in quotes that indicate it's a direct quote, it is a fundamentally dishonest thing to do.

You were expecting anything more than that? I'm surprised

 

[borrofburi]

You were expecting anything more than that? I'm surprised

In general, these people aren't dishonest, just confused and ignorant, it seems we may have indeed found one that really is dishonest, but I reserve judgment pending further evidence.

 

[Karma Singh]

Oh hey, look at that, the whois for karmasingh.com indicates a name, a street address, and an email address that shows other business affiliations.

Apparently the owner of karmasingh.com is also the CEO of harmony united, a company that makes profit on alternative medicine. --GASP-- Does that mean..that... the same site being promoted by a person with the same name as the domain claiming that pharmaceutical companies are evil because they work for profit is also promoting alternative therapies to make a profit? Go figure.

I'm glad the holder of the domain karmasingh.com isn't necessarily the same person as the person on this forum promoting the site, or I would be violating forum rules by revealing this information about the domain owner of karmasingh.com

So he's a PROFESSIONAL LIAR and con artist, and he's here spamming and hoping he can find people stupid enough to buy his nonsense. Great.

Hi Imp Joe,
I do really regret your inability ro read.
If the problem does not have a physical cause then maybe a homeopath can help?

Harmony United has nothing whatsoever to do with medicine in any way, shape or form.

None of the websites has anything to do with homeopathy.


You ARE deliberately breaking forum rules because you position is completely untenable and seek to "win" your case by mudslinging.

Grow up, educate yourself and get a life idiot!

Blessed be

Karma Singh

 

[Raistlin Majere]

You were expecting anything more than that? I'm surprised

In general, these people aren't dishonest, just confused and ignorant, it seems we may have indeed found one that really is dishonest, but I reserve judgment pending further evidence.

Fair enough, but from what I've seen of him so far, including his refusal to answer my posts anymore, he certainly seems to be the sort scaly and joe think he is.