Palestine statehood passes 138-9, with 41 abstaining

[Prolescum]

UN resolution A/67/L28 granting Palestine non-member observer state status passes, 138-9 with 41 abstaining.

Sauce.

UN Secretary General Ban ki-Moon speaks in favor of the resolution.

"I believe that Palestinians have the right to its own state. I believe that Israel has the right to peace and security," he says.

Ban says the resolution should be taken as an opportunity to restart the peace process.

"We must give new impetus to our collective efforts" toward a two-state solution, he says.

US Ambassador Susan Rice is speaking against the resolution. She says the resolution damages prospects for a peace process and does not establish a new benchmark for negotiations.

In short, she says the resolution is meaningless as far as the United States is concerned.

"This resolution does not establish that Palestine is a state."

"The recent conflict in Gaza is just the latest reminder that the absence of peace risks the presence of war."

 

[australopithecus]

This'll be interesting.

 

[Epiquinn]

This'll be interesting.

That was my reaction too. I really don't know what to expect, though I'm not particularly optimistic about it. I'm tempted to guess that this changes jack shit about anything, but the only way to know for sure is to wait and see.

 

[Prolescum]

To me, there are two important things to take from this:

1. 138 - 9. America and Israel (and Canada etc) are out of step with the rest of the world's view on this matter.
2. Palestine's new ability to lobby the ICC.

Neither of these are insignificant however you want to spin the results.

Edit: Also, "The recent conflict in Gaza is just the latest reminder that the absence of peace risks the presence of war"?

What a feeble piece of drivel.

 

[Gnug215]

If the world were a body, Israel/Palestine would be the pinching of your backhand to take the focus off all the other problems.

Or something..

Seriously, I'm so fed up with this neverending problem.

I suppose this latest development is supposed to change things, but the change will probably only be superficial.

... aaand the crappola will just continue.

What would be a lasting solution?

 

[australopithecus]

What would be a lasting solution?

Free cake?

 

[ArthurWilborn]

This may be one of those situations where depopulating the entire region (by moving everyone out, if nothing else) and walling it off would be the easier and cheaper solution.

 

[Prolescum]

Yep. Stick 'em all in Texas prior to its secession from the US.

 

[bluejatheist]

This may be one of those situations where depopulating the entire region (by moving everyone out, if nothing else) and walling it off would be the easier and cheaper solution.

Which group, and how will that not be hugely costly logistically?

 

[ArthurWilborn]

This may be one of those situations where depopulating the entire region (by moving everyone out, if nothing else) and walling it off would be the easier and cheaper solution.

Which group, and how will that not be hugely costly logistically?

Every group. It would be a huge cost, but it might be less then the military commitments and such that having the land occupied currently costs.

 

[bluejatheist]

Every group. It would be a huge cost, but it might be less then the military commitments and such that having the land occupied currently costs.

 

[ArthurWilborn]

10% or so.

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

Yep. Stick 'em all in Texas prior to its secession from the US.

With your avatar next to it, this statement is hilarious.

 

[bluejatheist]

10% or so.

Also, do you mean all of "the Holy Land," or just Jerusalem or something?

 

[ArthurWilborn]

10% or so.

Also, do you mean all of "the Holy Land," or just Jerusalem or something?

Start at Jerusalem and spread out until people stop shooting at each other. Ship one side to China and one side to the Great Plains.