Yeah... This should be interesting.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/14/technology/fcc-net-neutrality-vote/index.html
http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/14/technology/fcc-net-neutrality-vote/index.html
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Tree said:The more important question is, why is a net neutrality mandate even needed? You do realize that on the flip side you're setting the precedent that the government can regulate the Internet through an organization like the FCC? That's far more dangerous than one ISP acting in shady ways, which can be boycotted or out competed by other ISPs who DO uphold net neutrality because that's what the customer wants, not because some laws forces them to.
People are acting like there's this credible Internet doomsday-like scenario where people will be paying higher prices and only have access to 5 websites or something and will have to pay double for 10 extra websites and triple for 50 extra websites while the rest will somehow be impossible to access or only possible if you're rich. It's not happening and it's never happened with any other product or service in history where there was a free market with a healthy competition. Any ISP that attempted this would lose its subscribers and the idea that they can all collude to corner the market is even more ludicrous. It's like saying that all automobile manufacturers could suddenly collude to raise car prices by 1000% and you can only stop it by mandating it by law that they don't do that.
If you want net neutrality, remove the legal barriers that would prevent someone from starting his own ISP and boycott ISPs that offer crappy or incomplete services.
If somehow all ISPs manage to collude to do this, go offline. Permanently. We don't need half-measures and there was a life before Internet. I would be willing to go offline permanently if no ISP could offer proper services. I pay to access the entire Internet, not just little bits of it. If I want little bits of information, I can just go to an old fashioned library.
People will then say you can't go offline because you need it to find jobs or access your bank account. Really? People seem to have forgotten what life was before the Internet. Personally, I would not maintain a subscription for the sole benefit of accessing job sites and I can go to the bank or stock market broker myself. For jobs, I can just as easily leech a wi-fi without a password.
All or nothing, no half-measures.
Tree said:It's not happening and it's never happened with any other product or service in history where there was a free market with a healthy competition.
Tree said:If you want net neutrality, remove the legal barriers that would prevent someone from starting his own ISP and boycott ISPs that offer crappy or incomplete services.
Tree said:If somehow all ISPs manage to collude to do this, go offline. Permanently. We don't need half-measures and there was a life before Internet. I would be willing to go offline permanently if no ISP could offer proper services. I pay to access the entire Internet, not just little bits of it. If I want little bits of information, I can just go to an old fashioned library.
People will then say you can't go offline because you need it to find jobs or access your bank account. Really? People seem to have forgotten what life was before the Internet. Personally, I would not maintain a subscription for the sole benefit of accessing job sites and I can go to the bank or stock market broker myself. For jobs, I can just as easily leech a wi-fi without a password.
All or nothing, no half-measures.
Tree said:Maybe it isn't free, I'd explore laws and regulations that prevent new ISPs from coming into the market - and get rid of those laws.
I don't think giving government the power to regulate the Internet is the solution. Particularly when I see no reason that this doomsday scenario would happen. ISPs have historically granted full access to pretty much anything before they were required by law.
Tree said:Maybe it isn't free, I'd explore laws and regulations that prevent new ISPs from coming into the market - and get rid of those laws.
I don't think giving government the power to regulate the Internet is the solution. Particularly when I see no reason that this doomsday scenario would happen. ISPs have historically granted full access to pretty much anything before they were required by law.
Tree said:The thing is, all of this has come out of nowhere.
Before giving the FCC the power to regulate the Internet, remember how they regulate TV or radio with regards to "indecent" content. Do you think they can be trusted? How are they going to uphold net neutrality when they can't even allow certain content to be aired in old media?
I would at the very least like to see evidence of ISPs attempting to change the Internet in these drastic ways. I can go back as far as 9 years and see content from people online warning about the impending dangers of ISPs not upholding net neutrality if we don't make it a law. None of it has happened, I can still go online, still access whatever content I want at the same speeds, actually at higher speeds across the board.
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