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Master_Ghost_Knight

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Aparently there is a guy by the name Takaaki Musha who is going to give a lecture at my uni about Biefeld-Brown effect interacting with Zero point field creating electrogravitic propoltion, sufice to say warnings lights started to sound of so I am probably in for some quality entertainment. I need help to gather material about the guy, and I need someone with extensively more knowledge then I do on the related topics to fill me in on the details that I should be aware.
I have dug up a paper that you can find here, from where I stand it looks like he has just assumed the effect right of the bat and hasn't made any significant effort to eliminate experimental mistakes (that is if he has done any experiment at all). I will try to dive into the subject to see what more I can find, I will try not to talk out of my ass here.

And if you are interested in apearing live, it's at 13 Semptember 2:30 pm (local time, end at 3:30) in the Interdisciplinary complex of "Instituto Superior Técnico" (Alameda branch) Lisbon, atendency is open.
 
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I don't know anything about the subject, but a quick google gives some clues about this guy. He has a profile on Amazon, and his reviews are quite "interesting":
On the book "Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion: Tesla, UFOs, and Classified Aerospace Technology":

"I admit this book covers a wide range of researches made on electrogravitics in the past. However, there are many experimental results and theories on gravity control, those are not mentioned in this book. In web sites, such as the You Tube, the readres could find furthermore interesting topics on electrogravitic experiments, whic were conducted at diffrent places in the world."

On the book "Bye Bye Big Bang: Hello Reality":

"This book reveals us many flaws about the Big Bang theory, which is widely accepted by the conventional authorities. I have convinced that the Big-Bang and the inflation theories are not correct from many evidences from astronomical observations given in this book. "

On the book "The Missing Diary of Admiral Richard E. Byrd":

"I hoped that this book revealed us a new evidence about the inner world of the Earth, which had been concealed from us for a long time. But regret to say that it dosen't give us sufficient evident proofs about the Unkown world explored by Admiral Byrd. "

On the book "Programming the Universe: A Quantum Computer Scientist Takes On the Cosmos":

"This book is suitable for understanding the author's idea that the universe is a vast computer system. I think author's idea is very interesting from the standpoint of cosmology. "

Oh, and he published an article in the "Journal of Theoretics" (lol) where he claims that neutrinos could be tachyons. Yeah right.

Teach the controversy! :D
 
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Good luck to you, and I really hope you can get someone with real knowledge about this stuff (and the ability to debate) to join you in this lecture.

Take a look at the kind of books he reads and reviews. This review is amusing:
T.Musha said:
In web sites, such as the You [pause] Tube, the readres could find furthermore interesting topics on electrogravitic experiments, whic were conducted at diffrent places in the world.
Wow, and he's giving a lecture in a university. I guess this is what happens when classroom science gets divided (think: Evolution and Creationism/ID).

A little addition on my part:
Wikipedia: Electrogravitics said:
The effects of electrogravity have been searched for extensively in countless experiments since the beginning of the 20th century; to date, other than Brown's experiments and the more recent ones reported by R. L. Talley, Eugene Podkletnov, and Giovanni Modanese, no conclusive evidence of electrogravitic signatures has been found.
The last two have been involved in controversial scientific works.
 
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Master_Ghost_Knight said:
Aparently there is a guy by the name Takaaki Musha who is going to give a lecture at my uni about Biefeld-Brown effect interacting with Zero point field creating electrogravitic propoltion, sufice to say warnings lights started to sound of so I am probably in for some quality entertainment. I need help to gather material about the guy, and I need someone with extensively more knowledge then I do on the related topics to fill me in on the details that I should be aware.
I have dug up a paper that you can find here, from where I stand it looks like he has just assumed the effect right of the bat and hasn't made any significant effort to eliminate experimental mistakes (that is if he has done any experiment at all). I will try to dive into the subject to see what more I can find, I will try not to talk out of my ass here.

And if you are interested in apearing live, it's at 13 Semptember 2:30 pm (local time, end at 3:30) in the Interdisciplinary complex of "Instituto Superior Técnico" (Alameda branch) Lisbon, atendency is open.

This has become really popular with the fringe loonies and con men.

They typically use an asymmetric capacitor to "demonstrate the effect" which is nothing more than a crude form of ion propulsion.
It is entirely dependent upon ionizable gas.

The 4th listing in his references name the device as an asymmetric capacitor.
The configuration is novel but isn't actually any different.

The NASA report on the nature of this type of drive.
It has nothing to do with gravity, and does not function in vacuum as one would expect.

With just the NASA report you can ass rape him. It is precise.
 
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Yes I have looked into the "lifters" and I have also found out that they do not produce any result under a gravitometer. I don't think it is the same aparatus used in the experiment, (the presented schematics are a bit dodgy, poor work if you asked me). It is supoused to involve a highly dielectric plate and insulating oil, it might be the same device only in a different configuration. It is also a bit dodgy the fact that he charged the aparatus on top of a metalic barebone an electric balance (which works by measuring te resistivity of a strain gauge, and so a big no no). The portrained change in weight was less than a gram force (which a common laboratory scales have difulty measuring, and readings are extremely noisy and can easily be affectd by a person simply moving arround) that is supousedly 3% of he weight of the aparatus with a margin of error of 70% up or down (which is allot). The aparatus could cause some ionic wind and enough to explain the measurment of phenomena (assuming that the experiment was done correctly and the obtain result isn't experimental trash). What I would need is some isinght on the status quo of the Biefeld-Brown effect. Oh and predicted result failed by 30%, and the author went by proposing a craft that suscpiciously resembles a flying disk.

Edit: Yeap it is the same shit. This makes my work allot easy.
 
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