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I will openly admit I've been dragged along by some conspiracies in the past. It was only through my total rejection of religion that things really began to turn for other things I believed in (on the classic principle of many others believing, ergo it's the truth).
So yes that's my background towards conspiracies. About a week ago I came to an interesting point on conspiracy theorists:
There appear to be a number of so called "truths" that each camp is pushing. By camp I mean:
- Alex Jones (PrisonPlanet)
- Peter Joseph (Zeitgeist)
- 9/11 truthers
- Nibiru and 2012 theorists
- Government mind control (HAARP, Chemtrails, Lizzardmen etc.)
While this is a very compacted list you can see where I'm going. They each have ideals/demands for the future and want a change in the way things are. However there's a problem that I can see on most of these groups - all of them have fundamental flaws.
It's already pretty clear that Alex Jones and Peter Joseph do not have much to agree on even though they both seek to remove the old systems. However Alex Jones is a Baptist and regularly cites God as his saviour, and a saviour to all. Peter Joseph readily took shots at Christianity in his original Zeitgeist film. To go further with Joseph, he looks to "The Venus Project" as the answer to a sustainable future. The Venus Project however when looked into is something closer to a so called "New World Order" than both Joseph and his followers seem to realise (a totally automated series of super cities where everything is automated, monitored and controlled centrally). You then have so called chemtrail theorists who don't necessarily have to believe in Nibiru, or HAARP theories and are most likely anti-government control. These other groups don't necessarily have to fall into Prison Planet or Zeitgeist groups.
I know the above isn't particularly well written, but the pattern that emerges in my mind from all of this looks like modern day Christianity:
- They are all anti-system in some way (the same way all Christians believe in a God)
- The majority have a leader or figure head leading their cause such as Jones or Joseph (this would be the Jesus-like figure)
- They all follow ideals based around their conspiracy. (the same way Catholics don't necessarily have the same ideals as Mormons)
and the crunch point,
- They don't always agree with one another - to the point of arguments and violence.
My bottom line to all this is, how on earth can they truly expect any great number of rational thinkers to take any amount of thought to the theories they put out, when they themselves are so split up on differences, beliefs and ideologies? Or, how could they expect a great uprising of followers when there are so many distinct groups?
Thanks for reading and I hope this has made some sense
So yes that's my background towards conspiracies. About a week ago I came to an interesting point on conspiracy theorists:
There appear to be a number of so called "truths" that each camp is pushing. By camp I mean:
- Alex Jones (PrisonPlanet)
- Peter Joseph (Zeitgeist)
- 9/11 truthers
- Nibiru and 2012 theorists
- Government mind control (HAARP, Chemtrails, Lizzardmen etc.)
While this is a very compacted list you can see where I'm going. They each have ideals/demands for the future and want a change in the way things are. However there's a problem that I can see on most of these groups - all of them have fundamental flaws.
It's already pretty clear that Alex Jones and Peter Joseph do not have much to agree on even though they both seek to remove the old systems. However Alex Jones is a Baptist and regularly cites God as his saviour, and a saviour to all. Peter Joseph readily took shots at Christianity in his original Zeitgeist film. To go further with Joseph, he looks to "The Venus Project" as the answer to a sustainable future. The Venus Project however when looked into is something closer to a so called "New World Order" than both Joseph and his followers seem to realise (a totally automated series of super cities where everything is automated, monitored and controlled centrally). You then have so called chemtrail theorists who don't necessarily have to believe in Nibiru, or HAARP theories and are most likely anti-government control. These other groups don't necessarily have to fall into Prison Planet or Zeitgeist groups.
I know the above isn't particularly well written, but the pattern that emerges in my mind from all of this looks like modern day Christianity:
- They are all anti-system in some way (the same way all Christians believe in a God)
- The majority have a leader or figure head leading their cause such as Jones or Joseph (this would be the Jesus-like figure)
- They all follow ideals based around their conspiracy. (the same way Catholics don't necessarily have the same ideals as Mormons)
and the crunch point,
- They don't always agree with one another - to the point of arguments and violence.
My bottom line to all this is, how on earth can they truly expect any great number of rational thinkers to take any amount of thought to the theories they put out, when they themselves are so split up on differences, beliefs and ideologies? Or, how could they expect a great uprising of followers when there are so many distinct groups?
Thanks for reading and I hope this has made some sense