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Must Breivik's video be censored?

Hedley

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Youtube tried to censor Breivik, stating that it is for 18 years old only (because it is offensive).



After watching it, what do you think on youtube statements about the video
 
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We should all, everywhere, constantly be reviewing the manifestos of psychotics. Especially when they kill dozens of people. It is our duty to give each and every mass murdering bastard every available moment of our time and pouring over their deluded words and fucked up mental ramblings based on fear and prejudice. After all, they murdered people in order to get their message out, how terrible it would be if we sent a message that we wouldn't honour their acts and manifesto by obsessing over them...
 
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kenandkids said:
We should all, everywhere, constantly be reviewing the manifestos of psychotics. Especially when they kill dozens of people. It is our duty to give each and every mass murdering bastard every available moment of our time and pouring over their deluded words and fucked up mental ramblings based on fear and prejudice. After all, they murdered people in order to get their message out, how terrible it would be if we sent a message that we wouldn't honour their acts and manifesto by obsessing over them...


:lol:

Win. So much win contained herein.
 
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kenandkids said:
We should all, everywhere, constantly be reviewing the manifestos of psychotics. Especially when they kill dozens of people. It is our duty to give each and every mass murdering bastard every available moment of our time and pouring over their deluded words and fucked up mental ramblings based on fear and prejudice. After all, they murdered people in order to get their message out, how terrible it would be if we sent a message that we wouldn't honour their acts and manifesto by obsessing over them...

1. Well, as far as we know he is not psychotic, and a lot of things point against it. So maybe you should refrain from calling him that? I know the jargon is comforting, but this is not time to be cosy.

2. This is not about obsessing over some insane persons ramblings. This is about realizing we are having a paradigm shift in terror and violence as well as hatred. It is no longer racially or religiously motivated, it is culturally motivated. People want to call him an extremist Christian and be done with it but we are facing something that is fairly new to us here. And the scary thing is that so many people in northern Europe share a lot of the opinions in this manifesto.

I know you think that you are being smart and clever, but the general attitude can be very damaging. "These things are the hallmarks of religious extremists or nutters". Done... our brains are all warm and fuzzy again. Meanwhile the world is changing around us. Now, it's not all our fault, biology tends to have a hand in this through neurological mechanisms that we all have to some degree... some of us are just more used to dealing with paradigm shifts than others. But maybe, just maybe, the word is not as simple as "insane" or "sane and don't do fucked up things according to my world view". It's not black or white.

This man put himself in his mind into a war zone. To him this was an act of war. He's a military man. He even wanted to face his charges dressed in his own uniform. He calls people "traitors" he talks about his actions as "horrible but necessary". THAT is why reading the manifesto at least in part is important. ESPECIALLY since a lot of people in Nordic countries share his views at least in part, and some of these countries had mandatory military service for young men up until fairly recently. Meaning a lot of young men, with a lot of hatred towards other cultures who know how to fire military grade weapons and who have had, on average, 34 weeks worth of military training.

It is not as simple as you make it out to be, I wish it was, but it is't.
 
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