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Mrs Ra speak on Republican selling ignorance!

Hedley

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Is it a surprise that Republicans cut public education?
Is it a surprise that Republicans that do not allow to cut the rich?
Is it a surprise that Republicans do not cut budget to the DoD?
Is it a surprise that stating that evolution=nasty wacky libs?
 
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Mrs Ra offers no alternative to the cuts, I asked for some and she replied with something along the lines of 'you don't think I have offered any solutions, so I'm not going to tell you what they are'.

Matt D mentioned something about a rainy day fund, so I asked more about this but got no further information. What are terms for the use of this money and does it cover the deficit?


To me, this looks like a symptom of 'yes, we need cuts, but they shouldn't affect me!' tallied with 'I dislike the solution given, so I'm going to shout about it without offering any alternatives'.

Yet when I tried to investigate further, Mrs Ra was less than helpful. Forgive me for not automatically seeing the world as a 'Republicans = Evil' stereotype. :D
 
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I don't know what country is involved... but it's perfectly possible that whichever one it's in a recession, and needs increased government spending... at least according to keynesian macro-economic theory...
 
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MRaverz said:
Mrs Ra offers no alternative to the cuts, I asked for some and she replied with something along the lines of 'you don't think I have offered any solutions, so I'm not going to tell you what they are'.

Matt D mentioned something about a rainy day fund, so I asked more about this but got no further information. What are terms for the use of this money and does it cover the deficit?


To me, this looks like a symptom of 'yes, we need cuts, but they shouldn't affect me!' tallied with 'I dislike the solution given, so I'm going to shout about it without offering any alternatives'.

Yet when I tried to investigate further, Mrs Ra was less than helpful. Forgive me for not automatically seeing the world as a 'Republicans = Evil' stereotype. :D


It's more a symptom of 'yes, we need cuts, but they shouldn't cut education'.


The alternative to cutting anything would be raising taxes on the rich people, who can more than afford it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyvU7iIU3M8&feature=channel_video_title
According to that source, it will raise more than cutting budgets.

And yes, the Republicans are almost entirely evil. Then again, so are the democrats, just to a slightly lesser extent.
 
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MisterMudkip said:
MRaverz said:
Mrs Ra offers no alternative to the cuts, I asked for some and she replied with something along the lines of 'you don't think I have offered any solutions, so I'm not going to tell you what they are'.

Matt D mentioned something about a rainy day fund, so I asked more about this but got no further information. What are terms for the use of this money and does it cover the deficit?


To me, this looks like a symptom of 'yes, we need cuts, but they shouldn't affect me!' tallied with 'I dislike the solution given, so I'm going to shout about it without offering any alternatives'.

Yet when I tried to investigate further, Mrs Ra was less than helpful. Forgive me for not automatically seeing the world as a 'Republicans = Evil' stereotype. :D


It's more a symptom of 'yes, we need cuts, but they shouldn't cut education'.


The alternative to cutting anything would be raising taxes on the rich people, who can more than afford it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyvU7iIU3M8&feature=channel_video_title
According to that source, it will raise more than cutting budgets.

And yes, the Republicans are almost entirely evil. Then again, so are the democrats, just to a slightly lesser extent.
But people voted the Republicans in so that they wouldn't raise taxes!

Democracy in action this. :D
 
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But people voted the Republicans in so that they wouldn't raise taxes!
Democracy in action this. :D

Not really, these stupid teachers DID vote for them, however the corporations paid the politian, and now the politian must give them back for the stuff he has been paid...
The teachers (who voted for the 4ss politian) will receive a nice kick in their ass!
 
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Hedley said:
But people voted the Republicans in so that they wouldn't raise taxes!
Democracy in action this. :D

Not really, these stupid teachers DID vote for them, however the corporations paid the politian, and now the politian must give them back for the stuff he has been paid...
The teachers (who voted for the 4ss politian) will receive a nice kick in their ass!
You're making a claim which borders on corruption there.

Big claims, big evidence in all that. So do you have anything to backup the suggestion that these politicians are being paid off?
 
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MRaverz said:
Big claims, big evidence in all that. So do you have anything to backup the suggestion that these politicians are being paid off?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKP_YgmAs7M

That clip shows one example of a politician being a complete bitch to the corporations.

Anyway, again, this is why the US needs campaign finance reform. Of course the politicians are just mouthpieces for big business. It's the corporations that get the politicians elected since, in the current broken system, they can finance whatever and whoever they want and in return the politicians will serve their corporate masters.

The Following is from "Chomsky on MisEducation"

In his later years, (Thomas) Jefferson had rather serious concerns about the fate of the democratic experiment. He feared the rise of a new form of absolutism that was more ominous than what had been overthrown in the American Revolution, in which he was of course a leader. Jefferson distinguished in his later years between what he called "aristocrats" and "democrats." The aristocrats are "those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes." The democrats, in contrast, identify with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as honest and safe depository of the public interest," if not always "the most wise...

...Jefferson's distinction between aristocrats and democrats was developed about a half a century later by Bakunin, the anarchist thinker and activist. Back in the nineteenth century, Bakunin predicted that the rising intelligentsia of the nineteenth century would follow one of two parallel paths. One path would be to exploit popular struggles to take state power, becoming what he called a "red bureaucracy" that will impose the most cruel and vicious regime in history. That's one strain. The other strain, he said, will be those who discover that real power lies elsewhere, and they will become its "bought priesthood," in the words of the labor press, serving the real masters in the state-supported private system of power, either as managers or apologists "who beat the people with the people's stick," as he put it, in the state capitalist democracies.
 
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The argument seems pretty clear to me. Perry has two responsibilities (among others).
a: balance the budget
b: provide schooling for every child
Mrs Ra was saying that in pursuing responsibility 'a' Perry is failing in responsibility 'b'. That seemed to be the main point of the clip. In addition there were several suggestions made by Mrs Ra other than cutting the school budget. The 'rainy-day' fund was brought up, as were taxes, and also making other cuts in budget (though the only explicit program mentioned here was funding for private school i.e. vouchers).

Borr, increasing spending would be a good idea but it's a bit hard to follow a Keynesian type plan if the government isn't allowed to go into deficit when times are tough.
 
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