There is a guy who I have been debating with for a fair while now. We are on quite good terms, but he is convinced that God exists and that there is a spirit world, just out of sight. His reasons for believing this are very personal, as they are related to his daughter's death. Here is his message explaining it:
My question to you lot is: How can I go through these points and refute/dismiss them without hurting his feelings too much? The dream is quite easy to explain, but he clearly gets quite emotional about it and I would prefer to not seem like I'm just saying: "YOU'RE DAUGHTER'S DEAD, DEAL WITH IT!"
I was quite devastated when Laura passed away (daughter) and already having gone through "do I believe in God or not", I knew Him and prayed for His help. Apparently one night I dreamed I saw her standing somewhere and she looked just like she did at age 15. She was again very pretty, and was completely unaware I was seeing her. However! The others standing with her were some kind of angels! I have never seen an angel and thought they would look like the books say and the movies show. You know, women with wings and long flowing dresses, or men with huge wings and arms too.
Well, what I saw was quite different. The angels were looking at me and I could hear what one of them was thinking, and yet he wasn't moving his mouth at all. They were there, but had a bit of "see-through" quality about them. They were dressed in kind of robes, no wings, and very muscular. They each carried arms: swords, spears and sheaths of some type. There was about 5 or 6 standing around her. (I don't know where it exactly was.) She looked very happy and was looking all around from one direction to another. I could hear her hair swishing back and forth and her clothes rustling against the material they were made of! (I felt really different and had capabilities I don't ordinarilly have such as thought transfer, and exceptional sight and hearing.)
I know there was something being said to me by the one angel with his thoughts that she was happier than she ever was on earth and now she was not sick anymore. (She had become obese because of her brain tumor & surgery that messed up the pituitary, hypothamamus, and apistat, and caused her to gain an enormus anount of weight before she died.)
The feeling of crying I had, stopped when I saw how happy she really was and that she no longer carried sickness and disability around with her.
Then I woke up from the dream, and it was morning. The dream was still going on though I blinked thinking I was still asleep. Then I felt a "bump, bump" as though I landed in my bed. I had not been in my room? When I looked around I could still see them! Somone unseen, was rubbing my arm as though to comfort me, and I knew I would remember this for the rest of my life.
This thing has stayed with me like it just happened, even now as I retell it.
I don't know what your name really is Nasher, but I want to tell you there are good and very evil spirit forces here and in the heavens. The reason our outer-space microwave/satelite systems that constantly broadcast "Is there someone out there?" "Reply if so" "Hello is there anyone there?", never get answered, is because there is someone there living side by side with us, and mostly undetectable because they are spirit. Just like I said about the wind, you can see the leaves moving and rustling but not the wind, so is the spirit realm. There is the secret society living here with us but only secret to those who choose to not see the rustling and movement of the spirit realm, where is has been and what it is doing.
Unfortunately, there are people who believe that the devil is god and they are caught up in situations they are not able to recover from and horrible things happen to them and those with whom they come into contact with.
God is not weakness but power, and He is allowing this to go on, with the wrong things until we can learn no more that our way is correct, that if given just a little longer we can succeed in bringing about peace.
He is waiting for the right time, then time will be no more. Never again will there be a question about who's way is right, and in the instant before mankind blows themselves from existence, He is going to intervene and begin setting up His government. There will be a new heaven and a new earth (the creation of a new world and galaxy/galaxies). The word of God says He will come and make His home with the Mankind-species He made and we will look like Him too.
I see that no one has ever told you of the absolute power and strength of the mountains just in weight, and consider the black holes mighty forces, but that God has more strength, and the next time you view the Milky-Way in the heavens through a telescope you will think of the God who is able to have made it. It is a very awsome experience.
My question to you lot is: How can I go through these points and refute/dismiss them without hurting his feelings too much? The dream is quite easy to explain, but he clearly gets quite emotional about it and I would prefer to not seem like I'm just saying: "YOU'RE DAUGHTER'S DEAD, DEAL WITH IT!"