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Midweek Links - Wednesday, 23 July 2014

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arg-fallbackName="Dragan Glas"/>
Greetings,
Inferno said:
Re: The numbers are in on meat and the environment
I'll have to read the study, it sure looks interesting. However, if what the article says is correct, then we'll have to wait for a baseline to be established with corn and wheat and so on. Until then, it's a good idea to avoid beef, but what about chicken? What about fish?
I gathered that their mention of "poultry" included chickens.

The impression I got is that "white" meat - poultry, fish and pork - was better than "red" meat (at least beef - I don't know about lamb, etc).

In fact, if correct, vegetarianism appears to be better than a meat-oriented diet.

Kindest regards,

James
 
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Dragan Glas said:
Greetings,
Inferno said:
Re: The numbers are in on meat and the environment
I'll have to read the study, it sure looks interesting. However, if what the article says is correct, then we'll have to wait for a baseline to be established with corn and wheat and so on. Until then, it's a good idea to avoid beef, but what about chicken? What about fish?
I gathered that their mention of "poultry" included chickens.

The impression I got is that "white" meat - poultry, fish and pork - was better than "red" meat (at least beef - I don't know about lamb, etc).

In fact, if correct, vegetarianism appears to be better than a meat-oriented diet.

Kindest regards,

James

Well, the impression I got is that beef >> poultry. (Of course poultry includes chicken, that wasn't what I meant.) But is poultry the base line? That's what I mean.

In the article, it states that "Now that these researchers have led the way, we might hope to see more comparisons – grain- and plant-based foods, for example". This is what I mean. It needs further research to put this one into comparison.
 
arg-fallbackName="Dragan Glas"/>
Inferno said:
Dragan Glas said:
Greetings,

I gathered that their mention of "poultry" included chickens.

The impression I got is that "white" meat - poultry, fish and pork - was better than "red" meat (at least beef - I don't know about lamb, etc).

In fact, if correct, vegetarianism appears to be better than a meat-oriented diet.

Kindest regards,

James
Well, the impression I got is that beef >> poultry. (Of course poultry includes chicken, that wasn't what I meant.) But is poultry the base line? That's what I mean.

In the article, it states that "Now that these researchers have led the way, we might hope to see more comparisons – grain- and plant-based foods, for example". This is what I mean. It needs further research to put this one into comparison.
Yes, beef is worse than poultry.

I take your point about finding a baseline - I'd imagine that plant-based foods (fruits, vegetables, nuts, breads, etc) would be better still as a return on investment environmentally. However, this wouldn't mean we should go vegan - as we're omnivores, we need certain vitamins which can only be had through animal protein: hence my point about vegetarianism being better than a (red) meat-oriented diet.

Kindest regards,

James
 
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Absolutely. I disagreed with someone on here about this very issue a few years ago. At the time, there wasn't the information to take a stance. The intel's still not in yet, but we're close.

I think there's a fairly good rule of thumb and at least one "health guide person" approves of it: No more than the weight of your hand as red meat per week, no more than three hands of meat per week. I think that's a fairly safe guide-line.
 
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