SpecialFrog
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In discussing science with creationists, I have found many have a tendency to claim to accept science and therefore have to pretend that science that conflicts with their world view must not be real science. Ken Ham's pretend distinction between "observational science" and "historical science" doesn't hold up to scrutiny and I have yet to talk with a creationist who can explain why they accept the science they do consider to be "real science".
If instead of trying to make this argument, what if creationists embraced occasionalism?
Occasionalism is basically the view that nothing that isn't God can be the cause of anything. Al-Ghazali, who initially described occasionalism, said that "when fire and cotton are placed in contact, the cotton is burned directly by God rather than by the fire." However, God normally behaves consistently so it looks like the world is coherent.
But God doesn't have to behave consistently and can make horses fly, seas part, etc. These things are not violations of natural laws because natural laws don't exist.
Under this view, science is essentially pretend but still looks like it is correct most of the time.
While obviously occasionalism fails to be even remotely parsimonious, it seems like it is a less problematic philosophical position than that of most creationists.
It also has issues in that you have to rationalize evidence post hoc if you claim God did something other than what the evidence says.
Is it actually a more coherent position?
If instead of trying to make this argument, what if creationists embraced occasionalism?
Occasionalism is basically the view that nothing that isn't God can be the cause of anything. Al-Ghazali, who initially described occasionalism, said that "when fire and cotton are placed in contact, the cotton is burned directly by God rather than by the fire." However, God normally behaves consistently so it looks like the world is coherent.
But God doesn't have to behave consistently and can make horses fly, seas part, etc. These things are not violations of natural laws because natural laws don't exist.
Under this view, science is essentially pretend but still looks like it is correct most of the time.
While obviously occasionalism fails to be even remotely parsimonious, it seems like it is a less problematic philosophical position than that of most creationists.
It also has issues in that you have to rationalize evidence post hoc if you claim God did something other than what the evidence says.
Is it actually a more coherent position?