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Niocan said:5810Singer: I think we're in agreement here, watch out ;P And my view on the position is that the NWO is being far too anthropermorphized into specific people/groups. Granted, these people/groups in question may have large influences but I think it's more of a reflection in the society of collective personal problems; Of which has been exaggerated by the church, state, ect. for thousands of years.. Some of the actual connections like the popular saved map called "The Magnificent seven" are rather frightening when we don't exactly know what goes on in these meetings. It certainly breeds the thought of conspiracy, but just from where they sit we can't say what their individual/collective intents are.
Oh hell, check out the "Yale - 54 corps. within 2 degrees" poplular saved map :twisted:
obsidianavenger: PepsiCo and Coca cola meet through a company called Bristol-Myers Squibb in one step :roll:
He's saying the problem with the NWO is that it places all the fears of power onto too few people. He thinks the conspiracies are there, but not as powerful as the NWO-believers think they are.5810Singer said:"Anthropomorphized into specific/people groups" ?????
scalyblue said:Wow, who would've thought that people with business degrees who are good at running successful businesses are out there running businesses.
scalyblue said:The site is old school, it's been around for at least six years, if there was a powerful global conspiracy with interests in keeping the public ignorant wouldn't it have been taken down by now?
It's hardly a cartel. The yale 50 corp 2 degree (btw, it's really 3 degrees, they got that part wrong) is a bunch of corporations that are *loosely* connected. Obviously I don't know their personal relationships with each other, but if all that is connecting these individuals are yale degrees at different times and a couple individuals who happen to tie together largely disparate groups, "cartel" is not a terribly applicable word.5810Singer said:I take your point, but one has to ask the question if all these guys are all interconnected then what happens to free trade?
Free trade requires competition, and there is no real competition in a cartel.
Why are so many people blind to the way pretty much everything actually works? I ask this question when I encounter a creationist, I ask this question when I encounter someone who thinks their car runs on magic, I ask this question when people tell me dumb things about probability or are surprised by the birthday paradox or other various probabilistic dilemmas, I ask this question when I encounter someone who doesn't understand the basic structure and flow of a logical argument, I ask this question when I encounter people who can barely use their computer to check email and play video games, I ask this question... Oh I could go on, but it's reached the point of redundancy, the short version is people don't know shit about most things, and it is a frightening phenomena not only in business but in things like evolution, global warming, copyright law, religion, and the very severe problem of exponential growth of the human race.5810Singer said:But it raises another issue, why are so many people blind to the way that the corporate world actually works?
I see big corporations as "three-card-monty" dealers, only they deal the cards face up, and the public still manages to pick the wrong one.
The term "NWO" is being shaped into a group of shady bankers in a dark round table room all laughing at our demise because of their choices; While I think this might happen in some areas it isn't just one physical group. I take the perspective of the reflection of our own problems based on Jungian models, and because of that I believe these reflections are based on segregating actions taken in the past (The corruption of the church / vatican).5810Singer said:I don't understand your usage of English.
"Anthropomorphized into specific/people groups" ?????
How do you anthropomorphise human beings, or human societies?
Haha, my friend these teachings are based in the time of Socrates and Plato in greek which in turn are based in Egyptian inscriptions. This is hardly a new concept, and I only pick these topics because I find them interesting and I can't read/speak Sanskrit or the language of the I-Ching.5810Singer said:And then you seem to lose all coherence, frankly you still sound like you're spouting "nu-age" claptrap to me.
BTW, how long do we have to experience "nu-age philosophy" before it becomes old?
It was called "nu-age" when I was a kid, and it had been around for decades even then.
Niocan said:I take the perspective of the reflection of our own problems based on Jungian models, and because of that I believe these reflections are based on segregating actions taken in the past (The corruption of the church / vatican).
Niocan said:Haha, my friend these teachings are based in the time of Socrates and Plato in greek which in turn are based in Egyptian inscriptions. This is hardly a new concept, and I only pick these topics because I find them interesting and I can't read/speak Sanskrit or the language of the I-Ching.