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Intercourse and Intelligence

Inferno

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I guess this goes best here...

Intercourse and Intelligence - The more intelligent you are, the less likely you are to have sex.

I disagree with the conclusion though, which prompted me to write this: (Note: Everything I talk about can be found in the article I linked to.)

Now to start off, I wouldn't have needed a study to tell me this. I could have looked at Sheldon Cooper and gone: "Yep, being smart does not equal to sex." I could have looked at any of the teeny movies (American Pie, Not another teen movie, etc.) and found the exact same stereotype. Heck, I'd only have to look at my class and in particular at me!

Now even though Jason Malloy goes with the "lower sex drive" idea, I'd go for a mix of two different ones.

Now first I need to qualify why the "lower sex drive" seems wrong to me. After all, "intelligence correlates with less sex within marriage for the same age range". Doesn't that pretty much show that their (or should I say "our"? :p) sex drive is lower? No, I don't think so!
Now I can't argue with the evidence that men as a matter of fact do have less sex within marriage the more intelligent they are, however I can argue with the interpretation. Remember that smarter men are also more likely to pay for sex and I think a different picture emerges. Intelligent men have, in my opinion, the same sex drive but they handle it differently. Whenever I read about a scientist doing science, what do they report? This is purely from personal experience, but I find that they compare it to an orgasm. No, I'm not joking. It seems, but again this is only what I see, that they are so immersed in their science that there's literally nothing else for them in the world. This also seems to be what popular media shows, though this is of course not an attempt to boost my hypothesis. (In "The Big Bang Theory", the four guys are asked by Penny to put up her cupboard. They then think about installing crazy stuff left and right, completely ignoring everything she says. At one point, she goes "I'm gonna take off my shirt, it's sooooo hot in here." to which none of the guys respond and just go on with their work.)

I hope I've sufficiently shown that there might be a different explanation, one that Malloy gives but dismisses, for "less sex within marriage".

The second thing that is partially right, I think, is the following: "Another idea, consistent with popular media portrayals of geeks and nerds (males at least), is that intelligent people actually want to have sex, but are simply less likely or unable to obtain willing partners because they are disproportionately viewed as unattractive or undesirable as partners."

This seems correct up until the point "because they are ... viewed as unattractive or undesirable..." I think that's an incorrect assessment. Readers of my Facebook feed will remember that just yesterday I posted an article, however unsound the science behind it may be, about which jobs women prefer. Of all those, the jobs with the highest geekiness level tended to score higher than others. I also tend to find that my geeky (or nerdy? Who cares, you know what I mean) friends have enough girls that would like them. So what exactly seems to be the problem? Well once again I can only give personal testimony, so bear with me for a second.

When I was still in school, I was desperate for a girlfriend but never had one. I never felt like any of the girls liked me. Once I got out of school and moved away from those friends, I started thinking about my school time a bit more and it felt like I had overlooked some things, but I didn't know what I had overlooked. A year or so later I came back to my old school and met up with a few friends from school, both friends that were still at school and friends that had already left school. I talked to them about this and that and one of the things that came up was "who we liked in school". Typically, and very unexpectedly I might add, the "crush" was almost always me. It seems that what I had overlooked was that girls did like me, I was just too (socially) incompetent to notice! This is also the trend I saw with my geeky friends.

So based on personal testimony, I absolutely disagree that nerds are seen as less desirable, I actually think they're seen as MORE desirable, after a certain age at least. The problem seems to be that 1) nerdy guys don't see that girls like them because like me, they're waiting for so obvious a sign that even an idiot would know, which socially speaking nerds probably are and 2) girls don't give obvious signs, especially when the guy seems so far out of reach. (Yes, that's what I got quite often.)

I would also refer people to Richard Feynman here, who at first was totally inept with the ladies and only through coaching learned the tricks of the trade and look at what he did!


Sooooo long story short, I would say the reasons are mainly the following: Smart people focus too much on their tasks and probably even after they're finished they still think about that, while less intelligent people might have an easier time "switching off". This leads to what is perceived as a lower sex drive. Smart people are less socially astute and only mingle "with their kind". This might create a negative feedback loop, making them less and less aware of signs from outside their group.
 
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I can't tell you about this from personal experience, because I fuck a lot. :lol:

I was a late bloomer, but once I bloomed it was on like Donkey Kong. Of course, I also had that experience of going back home after a few years and realizing that the girls had noticed me and I had been clueless about the signals.
 
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I would also refer people to Richard Feynman here, who at first was totally inept with the ladies and only through coaching learned the tricks of the trade and look at what he did!

What did he do exactly? I have read his memoirs ('Surely you're joking Mr. F') and he did seem to have his playboy moments, is this was what you meant?
 
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LonesomeDove said:
I would also refer people to Richard Feynman here, who at first was totally inept with the ladies and only through coaching learned the tricks of the trade and look at what he did!

What did he do exactly? I have read his memoirs ('Surely you're joking Mr. F') and he did seem to have his playboy moments, is this was what you meant?

Yup. There's one story where he goes into bars to pick up women and never quite manages to. At one point, a woman he offers a drink to tells him that she's married but she will explain to him how he can pick up women. After that he was quite the womaniser.
 
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LonesomeDove said:
But I got the impression he only picked up dumb women. Too easy

I disagree, but: Be that as it may, before that he couldn't even get the dumb ones. ;) Even picking up "dumb" girls takes a level of social interaction.
 
arg-fallbackName="LonesomeDove"/>
Oh it takes guts, but it is still relatively easy to do. Buy them a drink, promise them diamonds. On a more serious note, alcohol lowers testosterone (one of its functions is to maintain and regulate sex drive) levels in men which can seriously interfere with their sexual prowess but actually increases testosterone levels in women which makes them more randy. So getting women drunk is a good way to get laid, as I'm sure so many of you know. Why it works like that I have no idea. Can anybody explain it?
 
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Inferno said:
ImprobableJoe said:
I fuck a lot. :lol:

So what you're telling me is that you're stoooopid? :ugeek:




:mrgreen:
Yeah, clearly that must be it. :facepalm:

No, doofus. I'm smarter than you, and my wife is really smart too, and we're good to go. Before I got married I was dating a bunch of chicks casually, and before that I was hooking up relatively frequently. I've read that the average man has 7 sexual partners, other places say 11. That's about the number of women I had sex with in the two years between first meeting my wife and getting engaged to her.

Maybe it is because I was an early adopter of the Internet, and you can always find sex on the Internet. Maybe it is because I found kink communities on the Internet, and you can DEFINITELY always find sex in kink communities on the Internet. Cheaper than prostitutes!
 
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ImprobableJoe said:
Yeah, clearly that must be it. :facepalm:

No, doofus. I'm smarter than you,

Are you though? :twisted:
Come now, I'm only yanking your chain... Should know that by now. ;)
 
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ImprobableJoe said:
Inferno said:
Are you though? :twisted:
Come now, I'm only yanking your chain... Should know that by now. ;)

I know man, that's the way I took it too. :lol:

Ah cool, in that case... You may be smarter, but I have a larger penis!
 
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Inferno said:
Ah cool, in that case... You may be smarter, but I have a larger penis!

Quite possibly, but if you never use it what does it matter?

Who's the smart one now? :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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ImprobableJoe said:
Inferno said:
Ah cool, in that case... You may be smarter, but I have a larger penis!

Quite possibly, but if you never use it what does it matter?

Who's the smart one now? :lol: :lol: :lol:

The penis IS for using the lavatory, right? :ugeek:
Plus, people use their cars/bikes/etc. and it's all dangerous stuff, I keep my "car" safely at home and don't run the danger of running... into a ditch? What's an apt metaphor here? ;)
 
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Inferno said:
The penis IS for using the lavatory, right? :ugeek:
Plus, people use their cars/bikes/etc. and it's all dangerous stuff, I keep my "car" safely at home and don't run the danger of running... into a ditch? What's an apt metaphor here? ;)

Getting sugar poured into the gas tank?
 
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ImprobableJoe said:
Inferno said:
The penis IS for using the lavatory, right? :ugeek:
Plus, people use their cars/bikes/etc. and it's all dangerous stuff, I keep my "car" safely at home and don't run the danger of running... into a ditch? What's an apt metaphor here? ;)

Getting sugar poured into the gas tank?

Sweet, yet at the same time stops your engine... I LIKE IT! :D
 
arg-fallbackName="g0dh4x"/>
I don't think being a nerd has anything to do with being able to get laid or not. There are nerds and geeks who get tons of pussy. I think it has more to do with being a weak bitch. I've come to notice that chicks like dudes who are powerful. Whether they are nerdy, geeky, popular or even just idiots. You have to display power in order to attract hot chicks to your wang. Trust me. I know what I am talking about because I do this all the time :cool:
 
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g0dh4x said:
I don't think being a nerd has anything to do with being able to get laid or not. There are nerds and geeks who get tons of pussy. I think it has more to do with being a weak bitch. I've come to notice that chicks like dudes who are powerful. Whether they are nerdy, geeky, popular or even just idiots. You have to display power in order to attract hot chicks to your wang. Trust me. I know what I am talking about because I do this all the time :cool:

Why would a god require a wang?
 
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Prolescum said:
g0dh4x said:
I don't think being a nerd has anything to do with being able to get laid or not. There are nerds and geeks who get tons of pussy. I think it has more to do with being a weak bitch. I've come to notice that chicks like dudes who are powerful. Whether they are nerdy, geeky, popular or even just idiots. You have to display power in order to attract hot chicks to your wang. Trust me. I know what I am talking about because I do this all the time :cool:

Why would a god require a wang?

Ask your mom ;)
 
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