Mithcoriel
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So wait, you're suggesting we just sterilize a random group of people against their will?
Don't you see a moral problem with that at all? Don't you think these people, if they want to have kids when they're grownup, will end up feeling totally miserable??? (While others who didn't "win" the lottery might not want any kids) And then they have to watch others in what they perceive to be the bliss of having children, unable to have any themselves.
As I read through the thread I was kind of baffled to see how you kept discussing the administrative issues of how to technically accomplish this in detail, and didn't actually talk much about whether this is morally okay to begin with.
Yes, I agree, having kids isn't the most important thing in the world. A person can have a great and meaningful life without kids. I, and it seems you as well, would be perfectly happy to never have any kids. But not everyone feels that way. You can't just generalize your own feelings on others, that would be bigoted. There are some people who would love nothing more than to have a child. This would be like suggesting we ban a certain food, cause you happen to hate it, completely ignoring the fact that there's people who absolutely love this food.
Like I said, this lottery-system doesn't make a lot of sense to me cause it's random and doesn't depend on people's choice. You could end up sterilizing someone who actually wants to have children and not sterilizing someone who doesn't. If anything, why not make sterilization a free service you can get from the state, when you're adult and choose to do so. If the state can't afford to sterilize everyone who asks, they can still do the lottery system, but you have to actually chose to enter it.
Don't you see a moral problem with that at all? Don't you think these people, if they want to have kids when they're grownup, will end up feeling totally miserable??? (While others who didn't "win" the lottery might not want any kids) And then they have to watch others in what they perceive to be the bliss of having children, unable to have any themselves.
As I read through the thread I was kind of baffled to see how you kept discussing the administrative issues of how to technically accomplish this in detail, and didn't actually talk much about whether this is morally okay to begin with.
Yes, I agree, having kids isn't the most important thing in the world. A person can have a great and meaningful life without kids. I, and it seems you as well, would be perfectly happy to never have any kids. But not everyone feels that way. You can't just generalize your own feelings on others, that would be bigoted. There are some people who would love nothing more than to have a child. This would be like suggesting we ban a certain food, cause you happen to hate it, completely ignoring the fact that there's people who absolutely love this food.
Like I said, this lottery-system doesn't make a lot of sense to me cause it's random and doesn't depend on people's choice. You could end up sterilizing someone who actually wants to have children and not sterilizing someone who doesn't. If anything, why not make sterilization a free service you can get from the state, when you're adult and choose to do so. If the state can't afford to sterilize everyone who asks, they can still do the lottery system, but you have to actually chose to enter it.