I have evidence that Californians who voted are Stoopids

[Hedley]

This website make it clear:
http://www.marijuanaharmsfamilies.com/

Indeed marijuana does "harm"... and Californian voted NO!
INDEED THEY ARE 1235.4% STUPIDS!

 

[lrkun]

Nice, they chose not to legalize pot. Consequently, if I were given the choice, I'd do the same. I'd vote not to legalize pot.

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

Nice, they chose not to legalize pot. Consequently, if I were given the choice, I'd do the same. I'd vote not to legalize pot.

You do realize it is safer than alcohol and tobacco?

 

[lrkun]

Nice, they chose not to legalize pot. Consequently, if I were given the choice, I'd do the same. I'd vote not to legalize pot.

You do realize it is safer than alcohol and tobacco?

No. ^ ^

 

[RichardMNixon]

This website make it clear:
http://www.marijuanaharmsfamilies.com/

Indeed marijuana does "harm"... and Californian voted NO!
INDEED THEY ARE 1235.4% STUPIDS!

Err... what? Are you for or against legalizing it? And are you for or against alcohol prohibition? It's pretty unambiguous that alcohol is worse for your health and for society.

Edit: Oh man, this website has to be a joke right? They're fucking crazy.

It will be a new "right" to get high on marijuana at work, even in transportation jobs. Marijuana legalization means cities and counties can OK selling pot in grocery stores and permit marijuana operatives to buy thousands of acres of farmland.

"Rights," "operatives," this is Glenn Beck level of crazy.

 

[lrkun]

Well the issue is about pot, not alcohol, so I think it is better to focus on such. ^-^

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

It will be a new "right" to get high on marijuana at work, even in transportation jobs. Marijuana legalization means cities and counties can OK selling pot in grocery stores and permit marijuana operatives to buy thousands of acres of farmland.

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Yes because legalizing alcohol made it legal to be drunk during work hours for people who do transport jobs and everything which is sold in supermarkets is extremely healthy including the fatty snacks and sugary cereal.

 

[BrainBlow]

"Rights," "operatives," this is Glenn Beck level of crazy.

Not that it helps my case to say this, but Glenn Beck supports legalization.

 

[lrkun]

"Rights," "operatives," this is Glenn Beck level of crazy.

Not that it helps my case to say this, but Glenn Beck supports legalization.

http://www.celebstoner.com/200902271576/news/celebstoner-news/glenn-beck-i-did-inhale.html

Glenn Beck on Pot: 'I Did Inhale' PDF Print E-mail
Friday, 27 February 2009 06:14

The host of The Glenn Beck Program on Fox admitted that he has smoked marijuana.

Glenn BeckDuring an interview with the MPP's Rob Kampia about California's proposed pot tax, Glenn Beck said:

"I did inhale. I'm a recovering alcoholic. I did everything you could possibly do... I think marijuana is bad for you. I did it. Stupid, stupid to do."

Watch the interview

Beck took issue with the proposal:

"If you got cancer, I'm going to give you marijuana. That's OK. You got cancer, I'm going to give you marijuana. Look, here's the thing. You want to legalize drugs, legalize drugs, but now, what we're talking about is legalizing pot, so we can make money. The reason why I'm bringing this story to you tonight, America, is because this is how it's all going to happen. Quick, panic, we're out of money! Let's sell pot!"

Several days later, Beck stated on his show:

"It's about time we legalize marijuana... We either need to enforce our laws or change the laws"

Back in 2007, Beck criticized DEA raids of medipot shops:

"I have to agree with the critics that call... the DEA, bullies. If these places were selling what they shouldn't to people they shouldn't, I'd be the first to say shut them down. But as I understand it, that is not the case here."

Beck got his start in the mid -80s at WRKA in Louisville, Kentucky as a morning DJ. His show was called Captain Beck and the A-Team.

 

[SagansHeroes]

Wow people suck at critical analysis and deciphering hyperbolic bull shit from fact.

The californian law SPECIFICALLY stated you could not essentially do anything that you can't do with alcohol (driving, work, public places etc.), and how many studies need to say it's no where near as harmful as legal drugs (and even less lethal than H2O) for people to wise up.

I can understand and am fine with people not liking it and not wanting to try/use/be around people who use it. That doesn't excuse punishing people who do us it all the while letting drunks crash cars into families, punch their wives, rape people, destroy property, put severe strains on medical centres/er's.

I hate alcohol, I have the odd beer at social occasions but never more than 2-3 and I don't like hanging around people who consume copious amounts and stay away from late night clubs (unless it's a gig/concert) but I don't think it should be illegal and those people should all be put in jail/scrutinised. Yes it needs better control, but like prohibition failing in the 20's, it needs to be legal.

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

Proof pot should be legal--->

Never heard of a car crash due to pot. And never saw a high person get stopped on the cop shows.

 

[MRaverz]

Nice, they chose not to legalize pot. Consequently, if I were given the choice, I'd do the same. I'd vote not to legalize pot.

You do realize it is safer than alcohol and tobacco?

Urgh. People say that, yet never back it up. Thus, I'm not convinced.

 

[MRaverz]

Proof pot should be legal--->

Never heard of a car crash due to pot. And never saw a high person get stopped on the cop shows.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1504501/Driving-while-high-on-cannabis-triples-risk-of-fatal-crash.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1068625.stm
http://www.dft.gov.uk/think/focusareas/driving/drugdriving

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

Urgh. People say that, yet never back it up. Thus, I'm not convinced.

No one has ever been reported due to an overdose of marijuana.

The active ingredient, THC, can remain in the body for more than a month.

This gives doubt if marijuana is the cause of the crash. And no one is suggesting people should drive high. I just merely stated I never heard of a case where is happened.

 

[RichardMNixon]

Never heard of a car crash due to pot. And never saw a high person get stopped on the cop shows.

You are mistaken there, it does harm your ability to drive. Really the only logical argument I could concoct to support pot's prohibition (in contrast to alcohol/tobacco) is the possibility of a designated driver getting a second hand high or something to that effect from being at a party where people are smoking.

http://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/abstract.aspx?ID=197438

A moderate dose of THC is comparable to alcohol, a heavy dose is worse, and THC plus alcohol makes you useless.

Urgh. People say that, yet never back it up. Thus, I'm not convinced.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/58013.stm

For one, more than one drink in a day is pretty awful for you. Alcohol is a poison, straight up. It's a fun, delicious poison, but it's poison.
I am no expert but by my understanding, most of the cancer risk in pot (and there is cancer risk) is from smoking. You are not supposed to breathe smoke. It's why you're taught to stay low in a burning building. If pot was legalized I still wouldn't smoke it, it is bad for you. THC however, is just another intoxicant alongside alcohol, not really any worse (although combining them is worse than either), not as bad for your health.

 

[Ilikemustard]

You know what should also be legal? LSD. It is probably even more safe than marijuana.

No one has ever died from overdose on LSD.
LSD does not cause any permanent damage to the brain.
LSD is not addictive or habit forming.

And I'm not making this argument because I'm an LSD junkie. I've never taken LSD in my life.

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

Never heard of a car crash due to pot. And never saw a high person get stopped on the cop shows.

You are mistaken there, it does harm your ability to drive. Really the only logical argument I could concoct to support pot's prohibition (in contrast to alcohol/tobacco) is the possibility of a designated driver getting a second hand high or something to that effect from being at a party where people are smoking.

http://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publications/abstract.aspx?ID=197438

A moderate dose of THC is comparable to alcohol, a heavy dose is worse, and THC plus alcohol makes you useless.

I never denied that they did not cause car crashes, I just said I never heard of anyone in the Netherlands crash a car when under influence of marijuana.

 

[RichardMNixon]

You know what should also be legal? LSD. It is probably even more safe than marijuana.

The big issue with LSD is the flashbacks. You don't want to suddenly re-trip while going 70 on a freeway.

 

[Hedley]

Well the issue is about pot, not alcohol, so I think it is better to focus on such. ^-^

Ok, legal drug are dangerous, however ILLEGAL DRUG ARE MORE DANGEROUS SINCE:
1-Restriction to minors.
2-Quality control.
3-Restrictions to driving and heavy equipment
4-No FCK research allowed.

 

[MRaverz]

Urgh. People say that, yet never back it up. Thus, I'm not convinced.

No one has ever been reported due to an overdose of marijuana.

This is an incredibly simplistic way at looking at the danger of a substance as there are far more ways of dying than from an overdose. (e.g. I personally don't know anyone who has overdosed on a bullet, yet if one was shot at someone..)

Cannabis use has links with cancer risks (from the substance itself, not only from when used with tobacco), psychological disorders (such as schizophrenia), social disorders (social anxiety) and psychological dependency, to name a few.

Tobacco and alcohol use on the other hand have links with addiction and cancer risks.

The active ingredient, THC, can remain in the body for more than a month.

This gives doubt if marijuana is the cause of the crash. And no one is suggesting people should drive high. I just merely stated I never heard of a case where is happened.[/quote]
There's more in cannabis than THC, you're cherry-picking the article. In addition, THC may exist in an inactive form or reside somewhere in the body where it is not destructive etc. I'm not fully knowledgeable on the specific issue.

Besides, I was pointing out what was wrong when you said "Never heard of a car crash due to pot. And never saw a high person get stopped on the cop shows." and showing it to be nothing more than an argument from ignorance and a demonstration of your lack of research on the topic.