I alrdy knew she was nuts, this proofs it: TamtamPamela

[Memeticemetic]

Mod Note:

The offending post has been removed. Posting personal information is not acceptable under any circumstances.

 

[kenandkids]

Mod Note:

The offending post has been removed. Posting personal information is not acceptable under any circumstances.

Would you delete mine also please? It contains some of the previous post.

 

[Memeticemetic]

Would you delete mine also please? It contains some of the previous post.

Done. I think you can delete your own posts if I'm not mistaken. I often am mistaken, however, so take it for what it's worth.

 

[kenandkids]

Would you delete mine also please? It contains some of the previous post.

Done. I think you can delete your own posts if I'm not mistaken. I often am mistaken, however, so take it for what it's worth.

I'm a bit distracted atm and didn't see a delete button. It now occurs to me I could have simply edited... lol.

 

[Independent Vision]

I don't see the big issue here. She was a troll, had she not done the video her cover would have been blown. She made the call to play on, and say what so many other American Christians have been saying over the internet. People reacted badly and things hit the fan, so she outed herself.

It makes her a troll, not a despicable human being, although the two can sometimes go hand in hand.

 

[Anachronous Rex]

I'm somewhat surprised as well. I for one was fairly entertained by her poey antics.

 

[RigelKentaurusA]

I'm forced to agree. I don't know why she herself is being portrayed as sick. She was clearly playing in-character. She pissed a lot of people off, but she got across exactly what she was going for. Sometimes you've got to avoid sugar-coating things, and portray things as they are, and the sickeningly repulsive nature of how some Christians are is one of those things.

I commend her recent video.

 

[FaithlessThinker]

Wow, I didn't know people send pizza's to trolls.

Anyway her last "closing" video doesn't say much. To me, it would seem that she really is a hardcore Christian who actually thinks the tsunami of Japan is god's punishment, but when she posted a video saying so and got an overwhelming amount of negative response (and a truckload of pizza), she decided to issue a pretend apology in hopes of stopping the response and pizza inflow, and then quickly closed the account. (Why was it necessary to close the account instead of just deleting the video?)

+ she was hot.

No she's not.

 

[Prolescum]

Wow, I didn't know people send pizza's to trolls.

Anyway her last "closing" video doesn't say much. To me, it would seem that she really is a hardcore Christian who actually thinks the tsunami of Japan is god's punishment, but when she posted a video saying so and got an overwhelming amount of negative response (and a truckload of pizza), she decided to issue a pretend apology in hopes of stopping the response and pizza inflow, and then quickly closed the account.

Are you serious? She's received mostly negative responses to all her videos; she was a troll.

Can you please back up this view with something sensible? It's bad enough we've got Ad Initium making shit up (she was lying in her original videos and is still lying now, though he doesn't say what the lies are, probably that she loves him or something) and stalking her, but 'to you', apparently with no logic I can discern, 'it would seem that she really is a hardcore Christian'.

Please, enlighten me as to why we shouldn't take her closing video at face value.

(Why was it necessary to close the account instead of just deleting the video?)

One suspects the reason is simple; it no longer served its function, having been invaded by fuckwits posting her home address*, and her decision to come out made maintaining it afterward pointless.

*I dropped by the video during the drama, and her address was being posted every few seconds. According to Ad Initium, (not that he's particularly trustworthy at this point) that video had a figure of tens of thousands of comments, and it's quite possible that it was being posted all over her channel and other videos too.

 

[Dragan Glas]

Greetings,

Personally, I don't agree with these sort of tactics.

Both parties appear worse than in actuality..

Kindest regards,

James

 

[Ad Initium]

I take offence here.

No personal information was used ... Atleast no information that was not already out there. You get 15k hits on the adress alone (which I by the way did not even post in my post that got deleted). If you search her name using other methods, you get thousands of hits too. And there is an uncertainty here as it is most likely not her anyway!

So nothing I did was illegal other then using information available to the general public. I even asked a guy, who put her adress under a responds video to remove the adres, because if something happens to her, he will be partly responsible. He replied back to me saying "do not worry, she had put the adress out herself" Though I did not ask when, why and where ... but I am going to ask him that after this post.

In fact ... I even flagged her video and contacted YT and told them someone had putten her information out.
I even contact Tamtampamela herself about it to warn her.
And I contacted Thunderf00t and asked if her could halt the video or atleast remove the link to her channel to minimize exposure.

GoogleEarth is a general program. If I type in any adress in google earth the view will be like the one you saw in the picture I posted. Darn, If you type in the name of the village I live, I can see my house too! Nothing secret about it.

So my question to the protestors here ...

How many of you have bothered doing what I did last night? Contact youtube, tamtampamela and thunderf00t, in an attempt to protect her from being harmed in anyway? ...
If you did not ... well ... atleast I DID do something to protect her. I even noted in a P.S. the information is probably not about her anyway.

Anyway .. read this Blog .. I think it fairly tells what happened anyway:
http://www.thinkatheist.com/profiles/blogs/who-is-tamtampamela?xg_source=activity

And I was not worried about the pizza's being delivered to her house. I was worried about real harm. :evil:

 

[kenandkids]

No personal information was used ... Atleast no information that was not already out there.

I was worried about real harm. :evil:

So it's okay because someone else did it first?

And you were so worried that you posted a map image with a list of easily identifiable landmarks written out? I sincerely hope you stop worrying about people if that is your demonstration of concern...


edit: And you might want to note the line in that blog post that deals with what you did wrong: "These actual details will NOT be revealed in this article because such inclusion would only increase the potential of violence against her."

 

[borrofburi]

So nothing I did was illegal other then using information available to the general public.

No one said anything about legality (at least, not that I know of). But I will point out that the mod team is the "law" of this forum...

 

[lrkun]

A few things I inferred from the situation:

1. Do not pretend to be someone you're not.

2. Do think before you act.

 

[Ad Initium]

So nothing I did was illegal other then using information available to the general public.

No one said anything about legality (at least, not that I know of). But I will point out that the mod team is the "law" of this forum...

Ofcourse they are.
None of the information that was posted was illegal. The website the information came from that people found, may have been spokeo.com. All the information they give is information that is open to the general public. It is in their own Terms-Of-Use. That is why I myself said it is most likely not her anyway, because according to spokeo the woman mentioned, people all linked the adress too is 40+ years old! (3rd time I said that now, I think)

And what is wrong with mentioning landmarks from Google Earth? Please explain that to me. That too ... is information EVERYONE can see for themselfs. Go download Google Earth, look up any area and you will see landmarks. Or is it suddenly illegal to stare at a map and type in a forum what you see? The whole point of Google Earth is to find landmarks! If I look at a map of France, I can see Paris. If I zoom in on Paris, I see the Eiffel-tower, if I zoom in somewhere else, I may find a church.

All information used is general information, everyone can find within 2 minutes themselves.
You make it sound I work for the CIA, while -to say it Hovindish- a five year old can do this! I bet even my nephew of 9 years old could do this.

The one guy I mentioned before used her last name, ... now in none of her video's she mentions her last name herself. So she probably indeed had given that information away herself. Sadly we cannot check her channel now. I am waiting still for that guy's reply, but if he aint on atm, that may take a while ofcourse.
The point however is ... if she did not mention it in her video's, she probably gave away that information as part of a video description beneath one of her video's (which we cant see now). or in a comment she herself made beneath one of her video's as a reply. That is what I am trying to find out.

The point being ... if that is true ... then this is the same issue as with NepilimFree and his name VS csbair ... and this is just another example of the Streisand effect. Frankly, ... I am amazed that on the League Of Reason forum, no one seems to get that point, especially if it indeed happens to be, she had provided all that information herself.

But that is what I am still trying to find out. And even if she did not, ... then that only shows the adress people used is not her's ... but that does not negate the fact that it is public provided information by spokeo anyway.

 

[borrofburi]

None of the information that was posted was illegal.

So what? Who cares? Why does this matter in any way whatsoever?

 

[Prolescum]

No personal information was used

Yes it was, you even admit it right... here in the second half of your first sentence.

... Atleast no information that was not already out there.

You get 15k hits on the adress alone

Irrelevant.

(which I by the way did not even post in my post that got deleted).

You posted a map to her house and a list of churches (with links) surrounding her house.

If you search her name using other methods, you get thousands of hits too.

Admitting to stalking her isn't helping your case.

And there is an uncertainty here as it is most likely not her anyway!

Oh, the rumour you mentioned in your deleted post? The one you seemed to recall but couldn't quite verify or elaborate upon?

So nothing I did was illegal other then using information available to the general public.

It isn't government white papers you're dealing with, it's someone's home. I'm not so sure about this anyway, it might certainly be illegal, but either way, it is still despicable.

I even asked a guy, who put her adress under a responds video to remove the adres, because if something happens to her, he will be partly responsible.

Yet you practically did it yourself. With glee, I might add.

He replied back to me saying "do not worry, she had put the adress out herself" Though I did not ask when, why and where ... but I am going to ask him that after this post.

It doesn't matter. You've associated this board and its members by your actions.

In fact ... I even flagged her video and contacted YT and told them someone had putten her information out.
I even contact Tamtampamela herself about it to warn her.

You've spent far too much time 'researching' this girl for me to be comfortable.

And I contacted Thunderf00t and asked if her could halt the video or atleast remove the link to her channel to minimize exposure.

Thunderf00t doesn't listen to his audience; I would've thought being a fan, you'd have caught wind of this.

GoogleEarth is a general program. If I type in any adress in google earth the view will be like the one you saw in the picture I posted. Darn, If you type in the name of the village I live, I can see my house too! Nothing secret about it.

You still posted her information on this board.

So my question to the protestors here ...

How many of you have bothered doing what I did last night? Contact youtube, tamtampamela and thunderf00t, in an attempt to protect her from being harmed in anyway? ...

I reported you. My conscience is clear.

If you did not ... well ... atleast I DID do something to protect her. I even noted in a P.S. the information is probably not about her anyway.

You mumbled something about a rumour you might've heard. In an edit.

Anyway .. read this Blog .. I think it fairly tells what happened anyway:
http://www.thinkatheist.com/profiles/bl ... e=activity

And I was not worried about the pizza's being delivered to her house. I was worried about real harm.

I'd leave it alone, if I were you.


Edit: Fucking Q key.

 

[Epoch]

She may have broke just about all the guidelines in the 'Be as humane as you possibly can regardless' rulebook but enough is enough. She or somebody has closed her 'trolling' account & that's the end of that, however, it seems that TF continues to show the clip & is not doing the honourable thing & removing the clip or at least re-editing her mug-shot out. The closure of said Girls account should be proof of an overall victory for everyone who's been pissed at her. I understand not only is she being threatened at home but also some threats to her family too, which seem to be coming equally from an angry mob of Atheistic idiots as well as Christians (of course idiots too).

I don't see any 'reasoning' in keeping the clip any more apart from the continued damage it's probably doing to this Girls already damaged reputation especially for her family who had no control in her actions (even if they'd indoctrinated her!).

Don't you think it's gone too far?

 

[lrkun]

Yes we've all seen it, but just hear me out for a sec'. I know TF is a friend of the LoR club & yes his contribution to 'reason' & the never-ending on-line debate has been outstanding, but (& here it comes) I feel he's been somewhat irrational to this Girl.

She may have broke just about all the guidelines in the 'Be as humane as you possibly can regardless' rulebook but enough is enough. She or somebody has closed her 'trolling' account & that's the end of that, however, it seems that TF continues to show the clip & is not doing the honourable thing & removing the clip or at least re-editing her mug-shot out. The closure of said Girls account should be proof of an overall victory for everyone who's been pissed at her. I understand not only is she being threatened at home but also some threats to her family too, which seem to be coming equally from an angry mob of Atheistic idiots as well as Christians (of course idiots too).

I don't see any 'reasoning' in keeping the clip any more apart from the damage it's probably doing to this Girls already damaged reputation & also her family who had no control in her actions.

Don't you think it's gone too far - Any thoughts?

Poe girl posted a video about her opinion about the Japanese Earthquake and TF posted a reply. Do I think TF gone to far in addressing the subject? TF only provided scientific information regarding the event and explains how a creationist might believe in this instance. Therefore, TF didn't go to far since he only pointed out the truth and how poe girl's opinion was wrong.

Anyway, I can't make TF take that video down. It's up to him and his own judgment. A similar case comes to mind. What about Neph? What about VFX? What about TC? The difference here is that Poe girl misrepresented herself and in the eyes of the public, she lied and that killed her credibility. Time will heal her wounds and hopefully no person will act as a poe without considering the consequences of their personal acts.

P.s. Epoch, please delete your other thread since it contains no information or request for its deletion.

 

[Epoch]

She's removed her account that's it - job done. She or at least her profile no longer exists in the You Tube digital world, therefore, the end. TF should remove it.

P.S - other Post removed (like it really must have mattered :roll: )