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I meant invading them, not simply making fun of them, which I am totally in favor of. But the Iraq war goes against the UN Charter, the US Constitution, and also the Kellogg-Briand Pact IIRC. There was no good political justification for it, and that has been even better confirmed after some time, and even though everyone knows this it continues. I suspect this is a symptom of the corporatocracy we live in, though it is difficult to tell the severity and degree.Private_slim said:But why shouldn't we piss of minority extremists? Should we rather bow under and say "hey, yeah, violence is the way to get people to listen and respect you."
Fuck that. Draw mohammed day here I come.
I really hope that it goes that well, and I hope that I live to see it. But Ozy, bear in mind that with that kind of modification available, people from today could likely have things to bump them up to par, like artificial neuron implants, or some similar speculative future technology. I really doubt that we'd be completely shut out and left behind.Ozymandyus said:It will end with a certain mastery of genetic engineering and machine-human interfaces that will no longer allow us to be called human. After 1000 years of that sort of guided evolution and machinization, those of us living now, the unmodified humans will be spoken of as something like we think of monkeys... maybe a bit cute, but not nearly as capable.
That's my guess.
My guess is we'll be dead. We are too afraid of the implications of this sort of modifications as of yet... so I doubt it will happen for us. In any case, even if it DOES, it is still the end of human civilization as we would have become something else in a way, and in Some way 'people from today' will also no longer be human, at least not as how we think of it. It will undoubtedly radically alter our perspective on what it means to be human, at the very least.Jotto999 said:I really hope that it goes that well, and I hope that I live to see it. But Ozy, bear in mind that with that kind of modification available, people from today could likely have things to bump them up to par, like artificial neuron implants, or some similar speculative future technology. I really doubt that we'd be completely shut out and left behind.Ozymandyus said:It will end with a certain mastery of genetic engineering and machine-human interfaces that will no longer allow us to be called human. After 1000 years of that sort of guided evolution and machinization, those of us living now, the unmodified humans will be spoken of as something like we think of monkeys... maybe a bit cute, but not nearly as capable.
That's my guess.
Ah, I see, that does make sense.Ozymandyus said:My guess is we'll be dead. We are too afraid of the implications of this sort of modifications as of yet... so I doubt it will happen for us. In any case, even if it DOES, it is still the end of human civilization as we would have become something else in a way, and in Some way 'people from today' will also no longer be human, at least not as how we think of it. It will undoubtedly radically alter our perspective on what it means to be human, at the very least.
The reason it pretty must HAS to be a BIG event to end human civilization is that we're so dang smart that any slow process that threatens us we can easily engineer our way out of. Even if every human were instantly sterilized today, the human race would go on. If we ran out of oil, or crops started failing en mass... a lot of people would die yes but some of us would survive, and we would be stronger than ever for it: we'd have new hydroponic farms or new energy sources. Humans are at their best when times are toughest: the only way to really kill us is to get us all at once, in my opinion.UrbanMasque said:I dont think it will be a catastrophic event that brings about the end of life on earth ( for people anyway) . Why do we believe that we're going to go out with a bang - movie like images of some asteroid or product of war that destroys everything ( i wish - that kind of stuff you can see coming, and plan your farewell party appropriately - also an abrupt stop to life on this planet would be a very humane way to go). I don't think we're that lucky. I think it will be a long depressing process that we won't be able to stop. The movie, Children of Men, comes into my mind - because I think that the loss of the ability to reproduce will play a part in it..