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I think we can thank P.Z. Myers for that, right?Aught3 said:Did you see the poll on the Wretched Radio site?
If you listened to the Christopher Hitchens: Was Todd's approach...
Just right - 7%
Terrible - 89%
Could have used more apologetics - 4%
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Totally crashed.
http://www.wretchedradio.com/poll_results.cfm?pid=27
I've got to tell you, I have a Pavlovian compulsion to crash every poll he points me to. :lol:Aught3 said:lol, hell yeah! Him and his horde of tentacled pharyngulites.
Yet, people like Ray Comfort and Todd Friel START with the "what if"... what does that say about them?Gnomesmusher said:Heh, glad to see that stupid "What if" game backfiring. If you have to resort to the "What if" tactic then that means you've got nothing and already lost.
ImprobableJoe said:I think it is important to always stop theists at their first unfounded assumption, and make them back it up, instead of letting them build a mountain of assumptions and then try to argue against their conclusions. Friel was trying to lead Hitchens towards a specific conclusions, based on small steps that most people might accept without any thought or challenge. Hitchens did the right thing by rejecting Friel's assumptions every step of the way.
You can tell that they practice their techniques on each other, and then random people at the mall. They are then quite surprised when those same techniques don't work on anyone who has read a book or watched a couple of YouTube videos on the subject. They say "let's stump the nonbelievers," dash over to the local junior college, vocational school, or "Institute of Hair Design" to interview random 19 year olds who don't want to get a job and 40 year old housewives looking to learn a trade, edit the video to make the least intelligent ones look even more dumb, and then claim victory over Satan!Th1sWasATriumph said:Ever seen any of their live preaching shows on their Youtube channel? They ask people (quite stupid people) questions and then cut it together. Terribly frustrating.
ImprobableJoe said:I guess that's one way to do it... but I can't understand why anyone would respect that method. I also don't know why people don't crush them in more formal debate settings. You can tell that Hitchens was at least slightly prepared for the tactic used against him. Everyone knows that Ray Comfort and his crowd are going to pull out "nothing created everything" and "crocoduck"... :mrgreen: