ImprobableJoe
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Now, if anyone knows how I can trick my fucking wireless router into sharing that speed around the house, I'm all ears.
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Now, if anyone knows how I can trick my fucking wireless router into sharing that speed around the house, I'm all ears.
ImprobableJoe
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Linksys WRT320NCEbbesen said:
ImprobableJoe
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My wireless router is only giving me speeds in the 17-22 range. That can't be right, can it?
DepricatedZero
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Wireless won't be as fast as wired, the signal is too vulnerable to EMI
ImprobableJoe
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Sure, but only 10% of the wired signal, across less than 10 feet?DepricatedZero said:
DepricatedZero
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I'm not sure on the percentages but in my experience that's not at all unusual. My laptop's connection is a bit slower than my desktop, even though it sits just above the router on the desk when I have it plugged in.
It might not be EMI at all, but he reason is still the medium. Due to the wiring and shielding in CAT6, data can transfer through it at up to 10gbps, so it's usually not the bottleneck in a network. Conversely, 802.11n, which is I believe the current standard, can only transfer data at up to 200mbps. Granted, you're again limited by your router and your network card in either case. Combine the throughput limitations with signal degradation from EMI, and that's not that surprising imo.
The good news, though, is that the loss is relatively static. The only thing that's going to cause your signal to drop further from range is the power of your antenna and what you put between the computer and the antenna. Some metals can kill the signal outright, such as sheet metal in the walls (friend of mine has these, we joke that his house is a giant Faraday cage, he can't use wifi at all). Other factors to consider are restrooms (where you may have some electronic devices) and appliances(microwaves are notorious for knocking out signals entirely).
You can buy stronger antennae for both your router and your wireless cards, to maximize your reception. I don't think you'll be able to get the same speed as the computer plugged right in, but you'll be able to keep near it with those, as long as you're careful about what's between them.
edit: go into your router's settings and your computers which access over wifi and make sure you're using 802.11n and not 802.11g or earlier
It might not be EMI at all, but he reason is still the medium. Due to the wiring and shielding in CAT6, data can transfer through it at up to 10gbps, so it's usually not the bottleneck in a network. Conversely, 802.11n, which is I believe the current standard, can only transfer data at up to 200mbps. Granted, you're again limited by your router and your network card in either case. Combine the throughput limitations with signal degradation from EMI, and that's not that surprising imo.
The good news, though, is that the loss is relatively static. The only thing that's going to cause your signal to drop further from range is the power of your antenna and what you put between the computer and the antenna. Some metals can kill the signal outright, such as sheet metal in the walls (friend of mine has these, we joke that his house is a giant Faraday cage, he can't use wifi at all). Other factors to consider are restrooms (where you may have some electronic devices) and appliances(microwaves are notorious for knocking out signals entirely).
You can buy stronger antennae for both your router and your wireless cards, to maximize your reception. I don't think you'll be able to get the same speed as the computer plugged right in, but you'll be able to keep near it with those, as long as you're careful about what's between them.
edit: go into your router's settings and your computers which access over wifi and make sure you're using 802.11n and not 802.11g or earlier
)O( Hytegia )O(
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Here's the problem - I can't give you precise advice simply because I don't know your current situation. However, you can possibly increase your data speeds via wireless by following a few basic steps:
1) Pretend your WiFi Box is a Car Radio
Forget for a moment that your wifi box is a multiplexing duplex-circuit top-gun of modern technology and pretend for a moment that it is a radio. This should help you in placement of your transmitter/receiver where there is no interference.
Would you place your car radio under a bucket? I doubt it.
How about beneath power lines or sources of power? Unless you want to jam to your favorite rock stations filtered through a meat grinder you won't.
Would you expect your car radio to work well if there's a tunnel between you and the tower? How about your own garage?
2) Less is More
-and by that, I mean other people sharing your WiFi. Your WiFi is perfectly capable of handling several nodes Wirelessly sending and receiving data at any one time, but why waste your Router's potential by other people stealing your internet anyways?
So, what do you do about it?
Secure it with WPA2. Make a long password that nobody can guess (16 character, 2 Upper, 2 Lower, 2 Numbers, 2 Special Characters).
"But, what about WEP?!" you may ask.
Well, it's simple: Would you lock your house with a REALLY REALLY good knotted rope?
Same logic.
I'd have more - but my WiFi only exists so my woman friend can play me in CAWADOODY and for me to charge any other people for service under the table. Oh, and networking practice. I love me some network pen-testing practice.
1) Pretend your WiFi Box is a Car Radio
Forget for a moment that your wifi box is a multiplexing duplex-circuit top-gun of modern technology and pretend for a moment that it is a radio. This should help you in placement of your transmitter/receiver where there is no interference.
Would you place your car radio under a bucket? I doubt it.
How about beneath power lines or sources of power? Unless you want to jam to your favorite rock stations filtered through a meat grinder you won't.
Would you expect your car radio to work well if there's a tunnel between you and the tower? How about your own garage?
2) Less is More
-and by that, I mean other people sharing your WiFi. Your WiFi is perfectly capable of handling several nodes Wirelessly sending and receiving data at any one time, but why waste your Router's potential by other people stealing your internet anyways?
So, what do you do about it?
Secure it with WPA2. Make a long password that nobody can guess (16 character, 2 Upper, 2 Lower, 2 Numbers, 2 Special Characters).
"But, what about WEP?!" you may ask.
Well, it's simple: Would you lock your house with a REALLY REALLY good knotted rope?
Same logic.
I'd have more - but my WiFi only exists so my woman friend can play me in CAWADOODY and for me to charge any other people for service under the table. Oh, and networking practice. I love me some network pen-testing practice.
DepricatedZero
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Great points by Hytegia
ImprobableJoe
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WPA2 already set up, plus a whitelist.
Plus, I'm having issues with my XBOX LIVE settings, NAT level moderate. It is the router set-up that's wonky I think. I've tested the speed with a laptop and desktop with a wireless dongle within inches of the router, and the speeds are still around 10mbps.
Plus, I'm having issues with my XBOX LIVE settings, NAT level moderate. It is the router set-up that's wonky I think. I've tested the speed with a laptop and desktop with a wireless dongle within inches of the router, and the speeds are still around 10mbps.
ImprobableJoe
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Done, that's moved it from "strict" to "moderate".Dustnite said:
ImprobableJoe
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The new one.Dustnite said:
)O( Hytegia )O( said:
DepricatedZero said:
Also note that wireless is a shared medium at half duplex (one direction at a time), while wired ethernet _switches_ can operate at full duplex (both directions simultaneously) per port. I highlight switches to differentiate them from ethernet _hubs_. Hubs are simular to wireless in this context. Half duplex networks will only get upto 1/2 the advertised speed.
Collisions occur on half duplex networks. These are mitagated by built-in algorithms; but excessive collisions will cause "slowness".
Your ComCast connection to your ISP is probably a shared half duplex network. But is seperated from your wireless and wired conntections via your router. Each are their own network and each with their own speeds and such [weakest link].
There are dead spots as well in a wireless medium as DepricatedZero has stated. Try walking the device around to get optimal signal strength.
Try a different wireless channel on your router. Remember that your router is also the wireless antenna.
Your devices also have an ethernet or wireless port which have there own limitations and my be capable of configuration.
For your wired connections:
There is a feature known as auto configure for both 10Mb and 100Mb wired connections. This feature can be problematic. Even after it has successfully negotiated a connection state, it will keep trying. Sometimes this causes connection problems. Hard coding both ends of the connection with the same speed and duplex setting will stop the negotiation process.