Memeticemetic
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Memeticemetic said:So, here's a question for those who have watched the debate: who won? Obviously, 'round these parts most of us are heavily biased against Craig, so try to step back from that bias and objectively determine who made the better case?
Normally when I watch Craig debate, though I find him repugnant, I am forced to admit that he came out on top. Not so, this time; and I was shocked since I wouldn't consider public speaking to be Harris' strong suit. But he was willing to fight dirty, and that made all the difference. One of the main reasons Craig can get away with his tactics is because he retreats to a position of weak deism right off the bat and the majority of his arguments come from there. Harris wouldn't let him get away with that and he mercilessly attacked Craig's actual position, not his stated one. At about an hour in, Harris destroys Craig's composure by calling Christianity a 'death cult'. Rewatch Craig's floundering response afterwards, it's a thing of beauty to watch. Any time he accuses his detractors of desperation, he is loudly proclaiming just how desperate he is feeling. Harris' response to the rant? A quick, dismissive joke, a concise summary of Craig's faulty reasoning, and then a solid case for why we want to use science as a method for moral decision making.