theyounghistorian77
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Sometimes, the weird discussions that i can get involved in amaze even myself. Like i did with my latest blogpost i also made a mention of the 1913 Treaty of London on Twitter and the expansion of the Serbian state as a result of it, incorporating Kosovo (which is mostly ethnic Albanian) and the region of Macedonia. The first response to it i got was from a person who had missed the context that i was speaking about the Balkans in 1913 to make a barb that "Macedonia is a STATE. Kosovo is a PROVINCE! [sic]"
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ronjames1980/status/340118041377533952[/tweet]
Obviously his reference is to how the Balkans looks today, the Republic of Kosovo (which as i type has only 100 recognitions as an independent state the latest being Tanzania which happened only the day before i typed this) and Macedonia which has a much wider recognition (which is why you see it on the likes of Eurovision etc). Ignoring the modern day disputes over the Republic of Kosovo just for now because as i said i was discussing the Balkans in 1913. Nonetheless i made a clarification about the "Macedonia" he was obviously referencing with the following set of tweets
[tweet]https://twitter.com/historyboy77/status/340135745958318080[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/historyboy77/status/340135985037836288[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/historyboy77/status/340136359597600768[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/historyboy77/status/340136858342281216[/tweet]
As you can see, i called the state the "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia". FYROM is the acronym. And i called it so because it was my belief that this is how most neutral observers (which i would claim myself to be) address the name of the state for the reason i highlighted in the tweets above, one needs to distinguish this Macedonia from the region of Macedonia which possesses the same name in northern Greece. This is where things get interesting. To put it n a nutshell, i got several replies (see especially Tweet 3) from a person who said that my usage of FYROM in these tweets is wrong and offensive and a product of Greek propaganda and Slobodan Milosevic. went along with it quite meekly because i do not wish to claim that i am a total expert on this state. Now i have someone else that says, actually my original usage of FYROM was indeed correct and that the person who replied to me is completely wrong.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SirPatrickDean/status/340308010947715074[/tweet]
And that of course Macedonia is Greek. but the FYROM has nothing to do with the Greek Macedonians. I feel like i am caught in a no-mans land here (and of my own making i feel; i will admit) and i want to chart a path that is as reasonable as possible whilst sticking to the facts concerning the two worldviews these people have. So, is there any advice that could be offered to me here?
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ronjames1980/status/340118041377533952[/tweet]
Obviously his reference is to how the Balkans looks today, the Republic of Kosovo (which as i type has only 100 recognitions as an independent state the latest being Tanzania which happened only the day before i typed this) and Macedonia which has a much wider recognition (which is why you see it on the likes of Eurovision etc). Ignoring the modern day disputes over the Republic of Kosovo just for now because as i said i was discussing the Balkans in 1913. Nonetheless i made a clarification about the "Macedonia" he was obviously referencing with the following set of tweets
[tweet]https://twitter.com/historyboy77/status/340135745958318080[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/historyboy77/status/340135985037836288[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/historyboy77/status/340136359597600768[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/historyboy77/status/340136858342281216[/tweet]
As you can see, i called the state the "Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia". FYROM is the acronym. And i called it so because it was my belief that this is how most neutral observers (which i would claim myself to be) address the name of the state for the reason i highlighted in the tweets above, one needs to distinguish this Macedonia from the region of Macedonia which possesses the same name in northern Greece. This is where things get interesting. To put it n a nutshell, i got several replies (see especially Tweet 3) from a person who said that my usage of FYROM in these tweets is wrong and offensive and a product of Greek propaganda and Slobodan Milosevic. went along with it quite meekly because i do not wish to claim that i am a total expert on this state. Now i have someone else that says, actually my original usage of FYROM was indeed correct and that the person who replied to me is completely wrong.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SirPatrickDean/status/340308010947715074[/tweet]
And that of course Macedonia is Greek. but the FYROM has nothing to do with the Greek Macedonians. I feel like i am caught in a no-mans land here (and of my own making i feel; i will admit) and i want to chart a path that is as reasonable as possible whilst sticking to the facts concerning the two worldviews these people have. So, is there any advice that could be offered to me here?