France attacks Libya

[Duvelthehobbit666]

France currently has military jets flying above Libya. Here is the source: http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2011/03/19/waarschijnlijk-vandaag-besluit-interventie-libie/.
It is in dutch. I have not found an English source though.
Edit: As of 15:47, Sarkozy has confirmed that the French air force is attacking all those who are attacking Libyan civilians.

 

[BrainBlow]

A first vehicle had been targeted and destroyed.
Though it wasn't any specification of what type of vehicle or if it was at all active.

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

The link I posted has automatic updates. I saw indeed that this has happened. I think that Ghadaffi will surrender within a couple of days.

 

[BrainBlow]

The link I posted has automatic updates. I saw indeed that this has happened. I think that Ghadaffi will surrender within a couple of days.

I think he is goddamn insane.

As we speak, is is quite obviously preparing to portray the westerners as mass murderers.

 

[RigelKentaurusA]

Those French were fast on this
/high-five

 

[Divergedwoods]

As an update to this thread
The US engaged in military action by launching more than one hundred missiles from their war ships, crippling Qaddafi's ground-air capabilities. In addition to this it was reported that French fighter jets also attacked an additional 5 tanks in the vicinity of Benghazi
but despite being in the bullseye of such a coalition of military forces, Qaddafi stands firm, smug and arrogant issuing threats to all parties involved and saying that if necessary he would as far as arming the Libyan civilian population

 

[nophun]

Cliffs of what I am hearing on Canadian media.

- Harper says Canada will take part in campaign very soon.
- At least 6 C-18 Jets there.
* It sounds like these fighters could be ready to fly missions within two days.
- Harper calls UN mission an 'act of war'
- Harper made it a point to point out the risks and dangers our pilots will be in very serious danger. Cannot promise their safety.

Looking back at it I did not need those cliffs. Basically Canada has jets there and it is planed for us to join in the air strikes.

 

[kenandkids]

Cliffs of what I am hearing on Canadian media.

- Harper says Canada will take part in campaign very soon.
- At least 6 C-18 Jets there.
* It sounds like these fighters could be ready to fly missions within two days.
- Harper calls UN mission an 'act of war'
- Harper made it a point to point out the risks and dangers our pilots will be in very serious danger. Cannot promise their safety.

Looking back at it I did not need those cliffs. Basically Canada has jets there and it is planed for us to join in the air strikes.

Good for Canada, Harper's a tool.

 

[kenandkids]

At Qaddafi Compound, a Human Shield
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: March 19, 2011


TRIPOLI, Libya , Even as the Allied intervention began, a group of foreign journalists were bused on a rare visit inside Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi's compound , a labyrinth of concrete barracks, fortified walls and barbed wire designed to deter potential military coups.

There, hundreds of supporters offered themselves up as human shields, cheering to newly minted dance songs about their adoration for their leader. "House by house, ally by ally," the catchiest song went, quoting a Qaddafi speech. "Disinfect the germs from each house and each room."

Mostly women and children, some said they were the families of soldiers in Colonel Qaddafi's forces. They said they had come to protect Colonel Qaddafi's compound from bombing by volunteering to be shields. "If they want to hit Muammar Qaddafi, they must hit us because we are all Muammar Qaddafi," said Ghazad Muftah, a 52-year-old widow of a soldier from the Warfalla tribe, who said she was there with her six grown children.

In Tajoura , a neighborhood near the capital that has been a hotbed of anti-Qaddafi unrest , one resident had complained earlier in the day that despite the announced no-fly zone, Libyan Air Force jets could be heard taking off from the nearby bases, presumably headed toward the eastern front with the rebels.

"Our suffering is greater than anyone can imagine," he said. "Anyone who dares go outside is either arrested or shot dead.

"Food is decreasing, there is no tap water, and electricity comes and goes," he added. "The hospitals cannot really offer much treatment anymore because there are no medicines. Now we resort to traditional and old methods to treat the injured and the people who fall ill. There is no milk for the children."

It was unclear Saturday night whether the missile strikes had hit the air base, but in the rebel held city of Misrata , the last major rebel holdout in the west , one person said residents were cheering the sound of airstrikes. The Qaddafi forces had continued their siege Saturday, including the cutoff of water and electrical power, he said, and Qaddafi gunmen continued to fire into the city.

"The airstrikes sound good to the Libyan people," he said, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals against his family.

 

[Andiferous]

Good for Canada, Harper's a tool.

Harper's become a bit of the Lex Luther of Canadian Parliament.

 

[BrainBlow]

Even Norway is joining in on this.
And it seems like Khadafi isn't going to give up any time soon.
He recently PRETENDED to have, and now calls the UN resolution "invalid" because of the attacks.
Does the fool not realize that the media coverage was able to instantly call bull on his "ceasefire"?

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

For those who can speak dutch, here is the live coverage for today. http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2011/03/20/live-raketten-op-libie/

 

[Master_Ghost_Knight]

To much insistence from Khadafi now he has sentenced himself to the choper, they just won't let him go now.

 

[MisterMudkip]

So what are the chances of a plane actually getting shot down and ground troops having to be sent in to secure it?

The rebels should have taken Khadafis offer to let him leave the country with his money and surrender power to the rebels.

 

[BrainBlow]

So what are the chances of a plane actually getting shot down and ground troops having to be sent in to secure it?

The rebels should have taken Khadafis offer to let him leave the country with his money and surrender power to the rebels.

It was a BS offer and little more than a rumor.

 

[IBSpify]

Qaddafi stands firm, smug and arrogant issuing threats to all parties involved and saying that if necessary he would as far as arming the Libyan civilian population

Wouldn't arming the civilians be counter productive since this whole thing started because they were rebelling and he was opening fire on them

As a side note, I'm curious as to how many different spellings for his name we'll get in this thread.

 

[nophun]

Muʿammar al-Qaḏḏāfī does have some support from the people, I would think they are the ones he would be willing to arm.
This claim of arming the people was also from his phone interview were he claims the UN approved strike is a "Crusade" of sorts .. as BrainBlow pointed out he is most likely trying to "portray the westerners as mass murderers".

As a side note, I'm curious as to how many different spellings for his name we'll get in this thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi#Name

Also Harper must have phoned Canada's Minister of National Defence Peter MacKay last night.
This morning MacKay echoed Harper. Only new (maybe I missed it from Harper?) information added is there is 150 Canadian personnel in the area.


CBC had a list of Planes, Equipments, Land bases, Personal, etc. that all different countries have offered and/or have in the area. I seen it posted this morning. Have any of you seen something like this ? Got a link ? I lost it

It listed 6 NorwegianJets, 6 bases in Italy , etc. (edit: I listed them as f-18 but I am not sure Norway even flies these)

You know you gone and fucked up when Norway is sending jets to the area, and your loudest supporter is China.

 

[TheFlyingBastard]

Wouldn't arming the civilians be counter productive since this whole thing started because they were rebelling and he was opening fire on them.

Yeah, but you see, those aren't civilians, those are "terrorists".

 

[borrofburi]

Wouldn't arming the civilians be counter productive since this whole thing started because they were rebelling and he was opening fire on them.

Yeah, but you see, those aren't civilians, those are "terrorists".

Imagine the slaughter if any sort of "terrorist" revolt occurred in our country...

 

[Pulsar]

Newt Gingrich must be suffering from amnesia. On March 8, he criticized Obama for not intervening in Libya:

"Exercise a no-fly zone this evening, communicate to the Libyan military that Gadhafi was gone and that the sooner they switch sides, the more like they were to survive, provided help to the rebels to replace him. I mean, the idea that we're confused about a man who has been an anti-American dictator since 1969 just tells you how inept this administration is. They were very quick to jump on Mubarak, who was their ally for 30 years, and they were confused about getting rid of Gadhafi. This is a moment to get rid of him. Do it. Get it over with. "¦

"All we have to say is that we think that slaughtering your own citizens is unacceptable and that we're intervening. And we don't have to send troops. All we have to do is suppress his air force, which we could do in minutes. And then we have to say publicly that he is gone, that the military should switch sides now, and we should help the rebels. And if that means getting them weapons or whatever it means, the fact that there's no more Libyan air power and the fact that the United States has publicly come out for decisively replacing him, I suspect the military will dump him."

And now that Obama is doing something, what he is saying now?

The standard he has fallen back to of humanitarian intervention could apply to Sudan, to North Korea, to Zimbabwe, to Syria this week, to Yemen, to Bahrain. I mean, this isn't a serious standard, this is a public relations conversation... I think that two wars, in Iraq and Afghanistan, is a lot. I think that the problems we have in Pakistan, Egypt, Yemen, go around the region, we could get engaged by this standard in all sorts of places. Let me draw a distinction: I would not have intervened. I think that there were a lot of other ways to affect Gadhafi, I think there are a lot of allies in the region that we could have worked with, I would not have used American and European forces.

:shock:



What a hypocrite.