Fox is biased

[TheFearmonger]

RE: Fox is biased


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no shit? :facepalm:

 

[Jorick]

You guys, it's pretty obvious that Fox "News" is just another show copying the Onion. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a news program to be this biased and full of shit, it's just plain impossible.

You'd be surprised...

Also, I've known people who think stories from the Onion are real. :facepalm:

 

[Niocan]

My biggest question is: Why is such a blatantly bias (AKA Propaganda) 'news show' is even allowed to air? It's almost like there's only 6 media corporations and their sworn duty is to distract and misinform the masses.. ;D

 

[TheFearmonger]

My biggest question is: Why is such a blatantly bias (AKA Propaganda) 'news show' is even allowed to air? It's almost like there's only 6 media corporations and their sworn duty is to distract and misinform the masses.. ;D

That's because the rights to free speech allow them to say anything they want. As long as their news shows don't outright spread libel or slnder, they really have no regulation...
The pundits, like bill o' reilly and hannity, don't really have any requirements, except what the producers want.

Edit: we need to make a good, atheist news channel, 'cuz atheists don't usually have a vested interest in ignorance of reality, so...

 

[Jotto999]

My biggest question is: Why is such a blatantly bias (AKA Propaganda) 'news show' is even allowed to air?

They are allowed because, well, by law they are allowed. Simply that. As TheFearmonger pointed out, free speech lets them say what they do.

Mostly though Fox "News" is there because people watch it, and even farther, many people actually agree with what they say. Of course some people watch it for amusement and not as news, but Fox gets it's ratings for a reason. The stupid masses actually like it.

It's like most things in mainstream media...it tends to be garbage because mainstream media tries to appeal to the majority. If said majority happens to be morons, well, you get shows like Fox News airing with high ratings.

It's almost like there's only 6 media corporations and their sworn duty is to distract and misinform the masses.. ;D

Perhaps, but many anti corporatist people like to throw blame at the few in power all the time. If you're going to blame someone, blame society's majority. After all, people could just stop watching Fox and Fox would die instantly. Mainstream media caters to the majority, if the majority weren't such idiots then these retarded stations and shows would die and far better things would play.

Obviously this is unrealistic because most people aren't that clever, evidently since the majority is still religious. But if people were better than stuff like this, then it wouldn't really matter what the few in power want to distract us with, if the majority just realizes it's garbage and not watch it. The power is in the hands of the people the day they start thinking for themselves.

Hopefully as religion slowly dies, which it inevitably will as long as humanity continues to make progress, things like Fox will die with it. One can only hope

 

[scalyblue]

Technically they're not even advertised as news shows, they're advertised as opinion shows...but the people who actually dispense the news on fox news aren't even the first people who come to mind.

According to Fox News, there is only news programming is on 9am-4pm and 6pm-8pm ....everything else is considered "opinionutanement"

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-october-29-2009/for-fox-sake-

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-november-10-2009/sean-hannity-uses-glenn-beck-s-protest-footage

 

[Jorick]

Technically they're not even advertised as news shows, they're advertised as opinion shows...but the people who actually dispense the news on fox news aren't even the first people who come to mind.

According to Fox News, there is only news programming is on 9am-4pm and 6pm-8pm ....everything else is considered "opinionutanement"

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-october-29-2009/for-fox-sake-

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-november-10-2009/sean-hannity-uses-glenn-beck-s-protest-footage

Well, at least honesty is present in some place... Even if the "opinionutanement" morons claim to be presenting the news. :facepalm:

 

[TheAnMish]

I don't live in the states, and I don't get Fox on my tv.. but from what I've seen of it... it doesn't deserve to be called News.
Actually, I think Fox should - for the benefit of the world - be silenced.

Can we start with Glenn Beck?

 

[Aught3]

A new tag-line occurred to me the other day.

Fox: the news you want to hear!

 

[nasher168]

Pah! You Americans with your silly biased "news" channels! The BBC is technically a public service, so it HAS to remain unbiased by law.

 

[5810Singer]

Pah! You Americans with your silly biased "news" channels! The BBC is technically a public service, so it HAS to remain unbiased by law.

I assume that was sarcasm?

Please tell me it was sarcasm.

 

[DeistPaladin]

I think America may be getting back to the style of journalism it had during its first several decades. At that time in history, newspapers published to an audience of a certain political party. No one can out-Fox Fox Noise. They've got the conservative market locked up. I think MSNBC made a smart marketing move by shifting toward the liberal audience.

Personally, I wouldn't mind Fox's approach nearly as much if they were honest about their bias. Even Pat Robertson has the decency to label his 700 club as reporting the news from a conservative Christian perspective.

 

[TheFearmonger]

Pah! You Americans with your silly biased "news" channels! The BBC is technically a public service, so it HAS to remain unbiased by law.

maybe your news is better, but we have thanksgiving...

 

[scalyblue]

Pah! You Americans with your silly biased "news" channels! The BBC is technically a public service, so it HAS to appear unbiased by law.

Fixed.

Lies, deception, fearmongering. Back in the day, this was called yellow journalism. We've since shortened the term to journalism.

 

[stratos]

I think it's inherent to journalism to introduce bias. I know very well that it should be the goal of every reporter to be objective in it's reporting. But abstractly, the only non-biased form of reporting is by presenting a list of dry facts, and even then you have bias by selection. So in its essence it is inherent of news stories to be biased, even however so slight. I would also say, the more story driven it is written the more bias will be introduced, because of word choice and the likes.

This of course doesn't even begin to hold a candle to what fox news does, but fox news has banked on "a forgotten" group. It is a common sentiment that the media landscape is ruled by liberals(US version), so fox news positions itself as the underdog. (Like only a 800 pound gorilla can). Add to this that the US has an overdose of choice in the realm of tv entertainment. Specialisation is inevitable for channels to survive, which means that polarisation is going to happen to a certain degree. Especially when looking at news, seeing the average 50/50 split in voting behaviour between democrats and republicans, it was perhaps inevitable that a station like fox news would emerge.

But americans can be happy I guess, while there is a ideological divide you're not yet at the state of pillarisation the netherlands was in.

These pillars all had their own social institutions: their own newspapers, broadcasting organisations, political parties, trade unions, banks, schools, hospitals, universities, scouting organisations and sports clubs. Some companies even hired only personnel of a specific religion or ideology. This led to a situation where many people had no personal contact with people from another pillar.

My biggest question is: Why is such a blatantly bias (AKA Propaganda) 'news show' is even allowed to air?

Because the alternative is to move towards how Italy treats news or how China treats news.

 

[RichardMNixon]

http://didglennbeckrapeandmurderayounggirlin1990.com/

Just a simple question. Why won't Glenn Beck deny it? Is he hiding something?

 

[Vegetarianist]

Fox is biased, certainly more than any other major U.S. channel. But the left looks like hypocrites if they only call-out Fox and make no comments about MSNBC.

(They practically only talk about pro-liberal stories (Fox does it for the right), and often, although nowhere near as much as fox, lie to support their side: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/personalities/rachel-maddow/

 

[DeistPaladin]

Maddow and Olbermann are commentators. Their shows are political commentary. There's no effort to blur the lines here between this and journalism that you see on Fox. Have you ever seen Olbermann or Maddow as the chief anchor during a newscast? The same way you see Brit Hume on Fox as the cheif anchor? Have you ever seen taglines in their regular newscast that denegrate the other side, like how Fox News labeled Al Franken a "commedian" after he'd been elected senator? How about retractions and corrections? Have you seen them on Fox the way you've seen them on MSNBC?

I'll happily compare MSNBC to Fox any day.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

Fox is biased, certainly more than any other major U.S. channel. But the left looks like hypocrites if they only call-out Fox and make no comments about MSNBC.

(They practically only talk about pro-liberal stories (Fox does it for the right), and often, although nowhere near as much as fox, lie to support their side: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/personalities/rachel-maddow/

And you look like someone who didn't read the thread. "The left" doesn't only call out Fox Noise in anything like the hypocritical manner you claim. It is also the sort of disappointing false equivalence fallacy that I'm familiar with seeing, but never fails to surprise me. :x

 

[Gnomesmusher]

Fox is biased, certainly more than any other major U.S. channel. But the left looks like hypocrites if they only call-out Fox and make no comments about MSNBC.

(They practically only talk about pro-liberal stories (Fox does it for the right), and often, although nowhere near as much as fox, lie to support their side: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/personalities/rachel-maddow/

All news sources will get their facts wrong at times. Or for even the more credible sources, will in some rare cases, include journalists that fabricate the facts. But to compare this to the constant purposeful lies, deceit and propaganda that FOX churns out is ridiculous. But I'm wasting my breath aren't I?