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Extrasolar Planets

RigelKentaurusA

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There doesn't seem to be an extrasolar planets thread, so I'll create and maintain one.

A number of extrasolar planets have been discovered since 1995 through a variety of different methods, and the total is over 500 now. Planets are discovered through two main methods.

Doppler Spectroscopy
A planet will gravitationally displace a star that it orbits, causing the star to revolve around the system's centre of mass. The period of the stellar orbit around this barycentre is equivalent to the orbital period of the planet, and the radial velocity of the star depends on the gravity (and thus mass) of the perturbing planet.

The moving star manifests itself in the periodic red- and blue-shifting of absorption lines in the star's spectrum. And as such, stars with easily measurable spectral lines are the best targets for this detection method.

Because the velocity component of the star is radial (that is, toward or away from the observer), the amount of observed stellar motion will be a lower limit to the true amount of stellar motion. Thus, there is an inclination degeneracy causing us to know only a lower limit to the mass of the planetary companion. Systems that are edge-on have inclinations of 90,° (with respect to the plane of the sky), and the true mass will be equal to the minimum mass. Systems that are face-on have inclinations of 0,° to the plane of the sky, and have no radial velocity component.

Transit photometry
In the case of an edge-on, ~90,° inclined system, the planet will orbit around its star such that it passes between it's star and Earth, resulting in the blocking of some starlight (an event known as a transit). The amount of starlight blocked is a function of the square of the ratio of their radii, and thus you can determine the radius of the planet by how much the star dims.

Equipped with the radius and mass from Doppler spectroscopy, the average density is easily measured, placing constraints on the interior structure of the planet. Also, a transiting system has its inclination known, and so the true mass of the planet is also known. Mass measurements are required to confirm planets discovered by transit photometry, as many other astrophysical phenomena can masquerade as transits.

The transparent outer layers of a planet with an atmosphere will affect the spectrum of the starlight by absorbing more wavelengths. As such, the spectrum of the star will appear to change slightly during a transit event as starlight is filtered through the atmosphere. The spectrum of the planet's atmosphere is thereby measured by subtracting the stellar spectrum during the transit from the stellar spectrum out of transit.



Astrometry
Highly accurate telescopes can actually observe the barycentric motion of the star, yielding the mass of the planet as well as the entire orbit.

Pulsation timing
A pulsating star with a constant frequency can be used to detect orbiting planets. It's radial velocity can be measured by observing the timing in between pulses as a result of the star's barycentric motion. Because light will have to travel farther to make up for the extra distance from Earth across the barycenter, the observed frequency of the pulsations will shift up and down.

Gravitational microlensing.
When one star passes in front of another, it's gravity lenses the background star's light. A planetary companion to the lensing star will also briefly amplify the background star's light.


Several groups and instruments are actively involved with searching for extrasolar planets. I will list the major ones.

HARPS
High-precision spectrograph at ESO's 3.6 metre telescope at La Silla. Has discovered most of the confirmed low-mass planets.

SOPHIE
Spectrograph at Haute-Provence Observatory. Several planets discovered, and involved in follow-up confirmation of candidates from the Kepler mission.

CoRoT
ESA spacecraft mission dedicated to asteroseismology and searching for extrasolar planet transits. Several planets detected.

Kepler
NASA spacecraft dedicated to quantifying the frequency of planets around a variety of stellar types. Over 700 candidates detected, a few have been confirmed.

SuperWASP
Ground-based transit search. Over 40 planets found.

HATnet
Ground-based transit search. Over 25 planets found.
 
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Confirmation of a Kepler candidate with SOPHIE.
KOI-428 b is a Jupiter-type planet transiting a subgiant star. The system is notable as being the most evolved star with a transiting planet.
paper
 
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Kepler-10 b, the Kepler's "first" super-Earth (not counting the other one, Kepler-9 d). News articles (and even the press release) are claiming, incorrectly, that the planet is the smallest discovered outside our Solar System, but that title goes to the ~Lunar-mass planet at PSR B1257+12.
 
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Gliese 581 g -unconfirmed last I check, but it supposed to be the most Earth-like found so far.
 
arg-fallbackName="SagansHeroes"/>
I heard Nasa just started announcing the extended search for planets from Keplar list.... Showing only 1/400th of the sky and only able to see planets that orbit in the same equatorial plane of their star to us (so that they're visible in front of it) which I believe was estimated as only 10ish % of the stars in that 1/400th of the sky, and they've found 54 habitable zone worlds....

I can't find any-more info apart from this youtube post from Nasa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZHSptpDoLQ
 
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SagansHeroes said:
I heard Nasa just started announcing the extended search for planets from Keplar list.... Showing only 1/400th of the sky and only able to see planets that orbit in the same equatorial plane of their star to us (so that they're visible in front of it) which I believe was estimated as only 10ish % of the stars in that 1/400th of the sky, and they've found 54 habitable zone worlds....

I can't find any-more info apart from this youtube post from Nasa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZHSptpDoLQ

That goes a long way to confirming what I've always felt. If life were something special or miraculous, it wouldn't have happened here. Life is probably an incredibly frequent occurrence and earth is probably nowhere near as ideal a place for life to emerge as our anthropic tendencies like to think it is.
 
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http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20079-found-dozens-of-planet-candidates-smaller-than-earth.html
The newly announced candidates include:

68 roughly Earth-sized candidates, each less than 1.25 times as wide as Earth
288 super-Earth candidates, between 1.25 and 2 times the size of Earth
662 Neptune-sized candidates
184 Jupiter-sized or larger candidates
170 possible multi-planet systems, with two or more candidates orbiting the same star

Finally some decent analysis
 
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SagansHeroes said:
I can't find any-more info apart from this youtube post from Nasa.

The Distribution of Transit Durations for Kepler Planet Candidates and Implications for their Orbital Eccentricities
http://arxiv.org/abs/1102.0547

Transit Timing Observations from Kepler: I. Statistical Analysis of the First Four Months
http://arxiv.org/abs/1102.0544

Architecture and Dynamics of Kepler's Candidate Multiple Transiting Planet Systems
http://arxiv.org/abs/1102.0543

Characteristics of planetary candidates observed by Kepler, II: Analysis of the first four months of data
http://arxiv.org/abs/1102.0541

A Closely-Packed System of Low-Mass, Low-Density Planets Transiting Kepler-11
http://arxiv.org/abs/1102.0291
 
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For those that missed it ... here is the latest NASA Kepler news conference on NASA tv YT channel

The vid is 1h18m, and was uploaded by NASA on feb 2.
NASA's Kepler Mission has discovered 54 planet candidates that orbit in the habitable zone of their host star; this so-called "Goldilocks" region is "not too hot or too cold, but just right" for the possible existence of liquid water on the surface of a planet. Four of those candidates are near Earth-sized planets in orbit around small, cool stars. The findings, discussed at a news conference held Feb. 2 at NASA Headquarters in Washington, are based on data collected by the space telescope between May and September, 2009. Ground-based observatories will be used this spring and summer to help determine if these candidates can be validated as planets.

Enjoy the video, ... I was exited to watch it myself.



The only question that popped up in my mind, is how they take in account the angle of vision we have to these stars.

I mean it probably wont be like this:

O -------------------------------------------------[ x lightyear's ] -------------------------- O --------------------------- O
Earth ................................................................................................................. Exo planet ....................... Star

But most likely, the planet will be off angle and not between the earth and the alien star. I guess only numerous repetitions of taking photo's will accomplish it?
 
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Ad Initium said:
The only question that popped up in my mind, is how they take in account the angle of vision we have to these stars.
Kepler uses the transit method, so it can only detect planets that pass in front of their star.
 
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Ad Initium said:
For those that missed it ... here is the latest NASA Kepler news conference on NASA tv YT channel

The vid is 1h18m, and was uploaded by NASA on feb 2.
NASA's Kepler Mission has discovered 54 planet candidates that orbit in the habitable zone of their host star; this so-called "Goldilocks" region is "not too hot or too cold, but just right" for the possible existence of liquid water on the surface of a planet. Four of those candidates are near Earth-sized planets in orbit around small, cool stars. The findings, discussed at a news conference held Feb. 2 at NASA Headquarters in Washington, are based on data collected by the space telescope between May and September, 2009. Ground-based observatories will be used this spring and summer to help determine if these candidates can be validated as planets.

Enjoy the video, ... I was exited to watch it myself.



The only question that popped up in my mind, is how they take in account the angle of vision we have to these stars.

I mean it probably wont be like this:

O -------------------------------------------------[ x lightyear's ] -------------------------- O --------------------------- O
Earth ................................................................................................................. Exo planet ....................... Star

But most likely, the planet will be off angle and not between the earth and the alien star. I guess only numerous repetitions of taking photo's will accomplish it?



About 3 posts earlier both this link, and the answer(ish) to your question were posted.... but here it is again.

I heard Nasa just started announcing the extended search for planets from Keplar list.... Showing only 1/400th of the sky and only able to see planets that orbit in the same equatorial plane of their star to us (so that they're visible in front of it) which I believe was estimated as only 10ish % of the stars in that 1/400th of the sky, and they've found 54 habitable zone worlds....

I can't find any-more info apart from this youtube post from Nasa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZHSptpDoLQ
 
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MOA-2009-BLG-387Lb - A massive planet orbiting an M dwarf discovered via microlensing.
http://arxiv.org/abs/1102.0558
 
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What I actually meant (I think I did not ask the question well enough) is that even using the transit method, they will be missing some planets, I think. Those planets that have an angle to large compared to our angle of vision to the star, so these planets never go before their sun and will never be on a Kepler photo.

Like the example below, where the Exo planet goes around it's star at a angle of 90 degree's to our field of vision to the star:

O (Exo position 1)
.'
.'
O (alien star) <-------------[ x lightyears ]------------------------------------- O (Earth)
.'
.'
O (Exo position 2)

... I wonder if they know, using the transit method, how many planets they are likely missing as they are not in the field of view. Or would it still be to early to make an guess for that?
 
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For a planet orbiting at 1AU around a Sun-like star, there's only a 0.47% chance that it will have the necessary alignment to transit it's star as seen from Earth, so for every such planet that Kepler detects, there are over 200 that will remain undetected.
 
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SynapticMisfire said:
For a planet orbiting at 1AU around a Sun-like star, there's only a 0.47% chance that it will have the necessary alignment to transit it's star as seen from Earth, so for every such planet that Kepler detects, there are over 200 that will remain undetected.
Thanks.
 
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WASP-39, a transiting hot Saturn
http://arxiv.org/abs/1102.1375v1

Gliese 3634 b, a short-period super-Earth from radial velocity
http://arxiv.org/abs/1102.1420v1


And an awesome video showing each of the multiple-planet systems from Kepler's data release.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRJ30fkyiU4
 
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