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Explaining Macroevolution to a creationist

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I have no idea how what you have written is a response to what I wrote.
I'm demonstrating that Susan Nelson talks to people like shit.

And you don't?

What did you say you wanted to do to my 65 year old severely disabled mother?


That he's an arrogant tool. That's not trolling.

You've been told ample times by the mods to stop directing abuse at people. You spent more than a week ignoring me because I had the temerity to challenge your beliefs. You've spent far more time and words writing posts expressing your contempt, disdain, and anger at people than you've spent answering straight-forward questions.

I can only tell you what it looks like from my perspective, and it doesn't look like you're interested in engaging in good faith. I felt that before you started pointing abuse at Aron Ra and taunting the rest of the membership.


I'm doing this so you guys can sit back and think. Was John's intention to not answer the questions? Or was Larry /Susan/ whatever being an unreasonable douchebag? So John had enough and told him to get stuffed?

John... remember that it was not only Aron Ra who noted your evasiveness with respect to answering questions - I can't say as I counted, but at least half a dozen people made note of it. Are they all unreasonable douchebags? Or is it actually not at all unreasonable to expect you to answer questions, particularly when people have spent time and energy providing substantive answers to your questions?

Why are you still here if you're not interested in discussing the topic? Do you just want to make sure Aron Ra understands your contempt for him? If so, I would suggest you've communicated that. So if there's no other business?
 
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And you don't?

What did you say you wanted to do to my 65 year old severely disabled mother?




You've been told ample times by the mods to stop directing abuse at people. You spent more than a week ignoring me because I had the temerity to challenge your beliefs. You've spent far more time and words writing posts expressing your contempt, disdain, and anger at people than you've spent answering straight-forward questions.

I can only tell you what it looks like from my perspective, and it doesn't look like you're interested in engaging in good faith. I felt that before you started pointing abuse at Aron Ra and taunting the rest of the membership.




John... remember that it was not only Aron Ra who noted your evasiveness with respect to answering questions - I can't say as I counted, but at least half a dozen people made note of it. Are they all unreasonable douchebags? Or is it actually not at all unreasonable to expect you to answer questions, particularly when people have spent time and energy providing substantive answers to your questions?

Why are you still here if you're not interested in discussing the topic? Do you just want to make sure Aron Ra understands your contempt for him? If so, I would suggest you've communicated that. So if there's no other business?
Why am I still here? You guys keep writing to and/or about me. I'm just responding.
 
arg-fallbackName="Sparhafoc"/>
I think you need to go back and read what I was responding to when that happened.
After I told off Larry . You brought out a full attack on me involving profanity and insults.

This is the 2nd time you've accused me of directing profanity at you, and just like the first time, it's bullshit.

Next, as I told you before - profanity is an empty concept. Show me why 'fuck' is profane, but 'duck' is not and you might have a point.

Finally, how on Earth are you STILL complaining about profanity while talking about fucking peoples' mothers?

Of course now that I know she's disabled. I want to do those things even more.

And this is where I call you a twat and tell you to go fuck yourself, you ha'penny jizz troll.
 
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And thus all the concern trolling about profanity is exposed as being the manipulations of an intellectually bankrupt lying little shit-eater who wouldn't know honesty if it was fucking him up the arse. Show yourself out, there's a good twat.
Here Sparhoc. You mental defective. This is what you wrote unsolicited. It does contain profanity. Lots of it.
It was in response to this that I began to respond in kind.
Of course a few hours later you're asking me other questions. Then more abuse. Then civil conversation. You are a whack job my man.
 
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What's clear is that John's been lying through his teeth throughout.

He's not interested in any evidence. He's not interested in good faith discussion. That's why there's been no answers to any questions. That's why he simply ignores everything that's inconvenient, which amounts to basically everything. That's what all the 'concern' about 'profanity' is. That's why he engaged in amateur dramatics repeatedly telling me he wasn't speaking to me. That's why, while he's trolling Aron Ra, he's also trolling others by telling everyone that Aron Ra's our hero and other juvenile trolling.

Over and over again, people have gone to great lengths to provide him evidence to answer questions in good faith - the evidence is right here in this thread - and every time he's ignored it all.

But oh, despite not having the time or ability to answer direct questions, he somehow has plenty of time to talk about fucking peoples' mothers, and trolling everyone.
 
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Like I said, creationists have to deny reality, which you already admit that you do.
This reminds me of Adam Savage quote “I reject your reality, and substitute my own.”. But basicly that is what the do. What i do not understand is that they believe in a God that created everything, but yet they are to afraid to explorer what he gave them.
 
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Either @*SD* or me will read everything and give warnings if needed some have all ready gotten them please not to many points taken and your in a timeout for a few days so you can reflect what you did.
 
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Stupendous new movie on Aron's channel.

Aron R.R. Ra in A Phylogeny of Dragons.
 
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Based on your replies, I assume that you are not willing to answer any of my questions.
I am okay with that, but I would rather you say it explicitly so I don't have to make this inference based on the pattern of your behavior.
Because that would be the honest thing to do.
No. The challenge /claim was made and the 12 exchanges were supposed to be with Larry.
...on the topic of common ancestry. And you were asked questions about common ancestry (specifically the phylogeny challenge), a relevant question on the subject you have accepted to discuss, which you are refusing to answer.

Also, just as Aron said, it wasn't planned to be just 12 but a few dozen (that means multiples of 12 btw).
It should have been done in a private message setting. I suggested this to Larry. He wanted it public. I was not here for a group discussion.
There is no reason for why it should've been private, except by personal preference. And if you didn't want to have it public, you should've declined.
Also, as someone else pointed out, you don't have to respond to anyone else on this forum.
For the obvious reason. Because then people like Nesslig20, Sparhoc, and others think they are being ignored.
Then when Larry cries "your answers are not answers , You're refusing to answer". The others respond "that's what he's doing, refusing to answer.". And why do they think that ? Because they have experienced being ignored for days.
We don't just "think" so, its true. Not only have you ignored the question of Aron (the person you wanted to engage with...initially) and now you are also ignoring the questions from others. As I said before...you can just make it clear that you only want to talk to Aron, and no one else. But that's not what you did.

At first, you engaged in a conversation with many others, including me. But only after a few exchanges, you suddenly make a 180 and say you only wanted to have a conversation with one person (and currently with nobody apparently). But you don't get to do cut off a conversation in the middle like that.

If you are not willing to engage with people...then say it clearly from the start, so we don't have to waste our time with you.
You don't know Lawrence Nelson. Aka Aron Ra. Aka Absolute abrasive tool.
That was a rhetorical question, I knew who you were talking about, but still.
"Aron Ra" is his ACTUAL (and legal) name....and his name was never "Larry" to begin with.

Avoiding questions (after showing willingess to engage) and the persistent use of the wrong name when referring to someone...
...just shows who the real abrasive tool is.
 
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Based on your replies, I assume that you are not willing to answer any of my questions.
I am okay with that, but I would rather you say it explicitly so I don't have to make this inference based on the pattern of your behavior.
Because that would be the honest thing to do.

...on the topic of common ancestry. And you were asked questions about common ancestry (specifically the phylogeny challenge), a relevant question on the subject you have accepted to discuss, which you are refusing to answer.

Also, just as Aron said, it wasn't planned to be just 12 but a few dozen (that means multiples of 12 btw).

There is no reason for why it should've been private, except by personal preference. And if you didn't want to have it public, you should've declined.
Also, as someone else pointed out, you don't have to respond to anyone else on this forum.

We don't just "think" so, its true. Not only have you ignored the question of Aron (the person you wanted to engage with...initially) and now you are also ignoring the questions from others. As I said before...you can just make it clear that you only want to talk to Aron, and no one else. But that's not what you did.

At first, you engaged in a conversation with many others, including me. But only after a few exchanges, you suddenly make a 180 and say you only wanted to have a conversation with one person (and currently with nobody apparently). But you don't get to do cut off a conversation in the middle like that.

If you are not willing to engage with people...then say it clearly from the start, so we don't have to waste our time with you.

That was a rhetorical question, I knew who you were talking about, but still.
"Aron Ra" is his ACTUAL (and legal) name....and his name was never "Larry" to begin with.

Avoiding questions (after showing willingess to engage) and the persistent use of the wrong name when referring to someone...
...just shows who the real abrasive tool is.
You say stupid childish shit. This is why nobody wants to reply to you.
 
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You know where you can go and why, John.

No one's buying into any notion that you have the slightest shred of honest motivation.

You came here to troll, and your cover's blown. Run along now, there's a good boy.
I hope your mother is suffering and dies horribly.
 
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You know where you can go and why, John.

No one's buying into any notion that you have the slightest shred of honest motivation.

You came here to troll, and your cover's blown. Run along now, there's a good boy.
 
arg-fallbackName="Led Zeppelin"/>
Then someone hacked into your account a day or two ago and posted the following in your name:

"As a Creationist, I am a bit disappointed that John does not want to respond. My answer would have been that I reject evidence of common ancestry. That's why I am a creationist."

You said that you deny evidence. Evidence is a body of facts, objectively verifiable data. Like I said, creationists have to deny reality, which you already admit that you do.
Right, my point is that some of what you call "facts" are actually an extrapolation based on an interpretation of data. I would reject your evidence because I think you have a poor ability to correctly interpret data. I don't understand why you think you would even be qualified to tell someone really how our lives came to be. This is in no way meant to be personal attack against you or anyone else. I actually have recently enjoyed some of your material.
 
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