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Easely demonstrable and conclusive evidence against creation

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Witalian

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This is not against all creation myths in general but against the bible account in Genesis in particular.

Since Eve have been made from the rib of Adam, and DNA is the same in all parts of the body including ribs, then Eve will have the same genes as Adam and be his clone.
If all people descended from Adam and Eve and evolution doesn't happen, then all people should be clones. If there is two people in the world that have the slightest difference, then genesis is wrong.
The only way that the genesis could be right is if evolution happens, and it happnes with much highter mutation rate than it has ever been observed.(and then ofcource you need geology, phisics and allmost all other scences to be wrong)

And now bonus - destroing the "6000 year old earth" myth with one word : ICECORES.
 
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Fill free to use these very potent memecides against anoing IDiots, and don't forget to pay me royalties.
I can realy use the cash. The canabinol levels of my body have reached frightingly low levels.
 
arg-fallbackName="monitoradiation"/>
Icecores?! If you knew anything its that Kent Hovind utterly destroys the icecore argument because radiometric dating never works!!!!11!!EVER1one!!eleventyone
 
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monitoradiation said:
Icecores?! If you knew anything its that Kent Hovind utterly destroys the icecore argument because radiometric dating never works!!!!11!!EVER1one!!eleventyone
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LMFAO.
Of course witalian what your saying is perfectly true, but creationists will just say "GODDIDIT" like with the tower of babel myth and such.
 
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Witalian said:
This is not against all creation myths in general but against the bible account in Genesis in particular.

Since Eve have been made from the rib of Adam, and DNA is the same in all parts of the body including ribs, then Eve will have the same genes as Adam and be his clone.
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pfft! Her Y chromosome was disabled; she was an XY female ;)

If all people descended from Adam and Eve and evolution doesn't happen, then all people should be clones.
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Satan rapes babies in the womb, and their DNA is changed by the precesne of sin, causing mutations that result in non-evolutionary genetic drift and changes in Man as he resembles ever more sin... Not get your bible oout and stop thinking... evolution is false.. it's devolution, as we look less like god... yeah, thats it! See, simple :ugeek:
 
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Actually this is a pretty good way to refute the "no beneficial mutations" argument. Some people are lactose tolerant, and we know the genes responsible. Actually there are two different versions of lactose tolerance (possibly more, but 2 I am aware of), the common one in Western Europe and the other in Africa.

Since Adam and eve had identical genomes then either the gene has been lost in most, or else it is a new beneficial mutation. Since we know the gene to be spreading, and since it is possible to show how long a given gene variant takes to become fixed in a population, this could be a pretty clean way of rubbishing that particular canard in a way that even the creos can understand.
 
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monitoradiation said:
Icecores?! If you knew anything its that Kent Hovind utterly destroys the icecore argument because radiometric dating never works!!!!11!!EVER1one!!eleventyone
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I have heared Hovind's "destruction" of Icecores and it's the lamest thing ever.
He said that the light and dark layers are not anual layer but they just represent warm and cold periods. Ofcource they represent warm and cold periods, that's EXACTLY why the ARE ANUAL LAYERS.
In Antarctica there's one cold and one worm period - the winter and the summer, also known as the polar night and the polar day.
And icecores need no verification from other dateing methods(like radiometric), because we can directly observe the anual layers each year as they form. This is undeniable fact. It is as surtain as anual rings in trees. It is absolutly reliable dateing methid and can give precise years, so it's very acurate as well. And it goes hundreds of thousands years in the past.
 
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Everybody knows creationists preach 'super-evolution' read: rates of evolution that would make even the most ardent "Darwinist" blush. It's the only way to produce all the modern species from the limited number of 'kinds' present on the ark.

As a side note I once heard Ken Ham give an amazingly accurate and precise description of evolution. It was so good my jaw just dropped, I mean it was Ken Ham! He finished up by saying 'but that's not evolution' which demonstrates that they don't actual understand what evolution is rather than willfully deceiving other people.
 
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I htink ExatntDodo(or someone else) made a video abouth creationsist super evolution. It is prety much the same problem that I put here, only it's applied to the Noah's arc, not to genesis.
The main pont is that without diverce genepool the population is basicly doomed.
 
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Witalian said:
I htink ExatntDodo(or someone else) made a video abouth creationsist super evolution. It is prety much the same problem that I put here, only it's applied to the Noah's arc, not to genesis.
The main pont is that without diverce genepool the population is basicly doomed.
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It was CDK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mPPnN1c0jk
 
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