Does all reason lead up to realization of reality?

[QuanSai]

With reason comes reality, right? But doesn't it depend on how one reasons? Hm? Surely, anyone can reason using objects and events that their mind inductively concocted. That isn't likely to lead to a grasp on reality. I think that's inversely analogous (conceptually) to driving a car in a drag race hoping to win, but making a right turn along the path in an attempt to make it to the finish line.

Does all reasoning eventually lead up to realization of reality? I don't think so.

 

[borrofburi]

It depends on the basic axioms you start with...

 

[QuanSai]

It depends on the basic axioms you start with...

Well, tell me what you think based on the ones you start with while examining this.

 

[GoodKat]

Proper application of reason will bring one ever closer to reality, but you will never get there. Everything you believe will always be either a generalization of the truth, or flat out wrong.

 

[borrofburi]

Well, tell me what you think based on the ones you start with while examining this.

I pretty much start with the assumptions that this reality is real and that it can be tested and observed. In which case it should lead you to good approximations of reality. The problem of course is that people add on axioms like "whatever I see is real" or "god exists and has ___ properties" and from there you don't necessarily end up with a good approximation of reality.

 

[roxaslawliet]

With reason comes reality, right? But doesn't it depend on how one reasons? Hm? Surely, anyone can reason using objects and events that their mind inductively concocted. That isn't likely to lead to a grasp on reality. I think that's inversely analogous (conceptually) to driving a car in a drag race hoping to win, but making a right turn along the path in an attempt to make it to the finish line.

Does all reasoning eventually lead up to realization of reality? I don't think so.

With logic and proper application of it's laws along with good reasoning and evidence comes reality. Yes, one must use logic and support their claims with evidence and must be able to make accurate predictions, certainly, but that doesn't make them correct by any means. correct it isn't.

no. bad reasoning will never lead to what is actually true. thank goodness we have a lot of time to study the physical universe and discover truth.

 

[Stardust]

I think you mean by "realize reality" coming to a complete intuitive grasp of the totality of noumenal existence. I do not believe this can be done by reasoning because this involves constructing a concept in your mind about what reality is. All words, reasoning and concepts are only representations of reality translated to be palatable to the human brain. You can't "think" your way to realization.

When we create a concept in our minds, it's as if we've painted a picture of the sky on a window. Then we examine the painting and think we understand what the sky is. But to see the real sky, you have to peel off the paint.

Stop grasping at reality and just be aware of it. It's here, it's now, so what are you trying to get by putting it into words?

 

[MRaverz]

To realise reality, you would need to know what reality is.
To know what reality is you would need to be able to rely on the source that informs you of what reality really is.
Our senses are often wrong and delusion is not a rare experience.
This however is our only source of 'realising reality'.
As it is flawed, it is impossible to really know what reality is.

So we end up having to assume that what we experience is real, but be open to the idea that it isn't.
Then again, living in such a way is potentially dangerous for ones health - so it's best that we don't worry about it too much.

 

[xman]

... Our senses are often wrong and delusion is not a rare experience.
This however is our only source of 'realising reality'.
As it is flawed, it is impossible to really know what reality is. ...

But if we can confirm our perceptions with thousands, millions or even billions of other people, we can overcome this uncertainty. Have I left the discussion of rationalisation and am I talking about evidence now?

 

[creativesoul]

Our minds work with empirical evidence. Therefore, we cannot truly fathom the 'nature' of anything, only what we are able to perceive from that nature. Our perceptual faculty is necessarily flawed in order to survive.

To answer the OP, yes. Reason leads to one's personal reality, through self-validation/justification.

Actuality is a different story.

 

[MRaverz]

But if we can confirm our perceptions with thousands, millions or even billions of other people, we can overcome this uncertainty. Have I left the discussion of rationalisation and am I talking about evidence now?

The confirmation of our perceptions comes via the senses, we would not be able to tell if they were deceiving us or not. But for our sanity, we must trust that they are reliable.