Do not 'troll' - your opinion?

[DepricatedZero]

May I just say, Dep, fantastic song choice for your sig.

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This made me lol, hard. Well played.

 

[Prolescum]

Shame I didn't edit my obvious errors... :lol:

 

[lrkun]

It's just another way to call another who disagrees with the fold, to me.

 

[australopithecus]

I guess all those chantards who post stuff on the tribute pages of dead kids are just disagreeing with the fold then.

 

[lrkun]

I guess all those chantards who post stuff on the tribute pages of dead kids are just disagreeing with the fold then.

Who knows, the thread asks for my opinion here, I only gave what it asked for, a definition based on my opinion.

Re: Do not 'troll' - your opinion?

 

[ranchodeluxe]

the only way a can troll can get satisfaction is if the troll can illicit a negative response. thus no response = no success for the troll. when the troll realizes he is being ignored then he/she will eventually give up and go away.

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

- then he/she will eventually give up and go away.

Bullshit.
The best trolls are the one who can lurk for a long time, and inject just the right statement.

The best remedy is lulz. You remind yourself that wither they are hopelessly retarded, or that they're trolling - at both bases, the only thing you can do is laugh at them. And remember to target the chuckles at the user, not the sock.
For example, a successful counter-troll:

Wow! Hetegia! You're EOD in the navy? Why, I don't even know what that means. You so clever, aren't you? Well done. And hold on, you were wondering about me? That's really sad. Look at you. Actually (fnar fnar) I', EOD in the naaavy (fnar fnar)" You're actually boasting to me about how clever you are, when I couldn't give a damn whether you exist or not, how's that, sailor? I tell you what, Sherlock, here's your next assignment : See how long you can go without thinking about me. Your time starts...now. Good luck, sailor.

Note the complete and implied "FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-"

Trolling is a art, and I am a artist.

 

[Gnug215]

Trolling is essentially pissing people off.

The best of example of a proper, pure troll is someone who goes onto a Justin Bieber fan forum, insults Bieber and all his fans, just for the hell of it.

That's a "real" troll. That's intentional trolling.

However, trolling is highly context based.

Insulting Bieber on THIS forum would NOT be trolling.


Generally, a troll is someone trying to elicit a negative response from someone. It can be done in many ways.


A Poe is something different. A Poe is someone posing as someone they are not. Like, Hytegia could go undercover with a new, fake account, and take on the role of a creationist.

Now, if Hytegia the Poe would, in his role as a creationist, be making inflammatory statements, purely meant to rile us up, annoy us, bait us, trigger us by saying stuff like "evolutionists are all satan worshippers (ok, that one would maybe just make us laugh, but you get the idea), then he would be a trolling poe.

If, instead, he just made statements making creationists look really bad, like, claiming that the Grand Canyon was formed in 5 minutes or that the craters on the Moon were created by water ejaculated from Earth during the Flood, then he would be a humor Poe, like Edward Current. (Although his Poe may be considered "trollish" by Christians who know that he's a Poe, because he's making fun on them by acting like one of them.)

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

A Poe is something different. A Poe is someone posing as someone they are not. Like, Hytegia could go undercover with a new, fake account, and take on the role ...

Respectfully request permission to make a Poe of a Troll account?
The only two things that could happen are that everyone would lulz hard, or that the internet would explode from a Poe of a Troll account.

 

[Andiferous]

Trolling is essentially pissing people off.

The best of example of a proper, pure troll is someone who goes onto a Justin Bieber fan forum, insults Bieber and all his fans, just for the hell of it.

That's a "real" troll. That's intentional trolling.

However, trolling is highly context based.

Insulting Bieber on THIS forum would NOT be trolling.


Generally, a troll is someone trying to elicit a negative response from someone. It can be done in many ways.


A Poe is something different. A Poe is someone posing as someone they are not. Like, Hytegia could go undercover with a new, fake account, and take on the role of a creationist.

Now, if Hytegia the Poe would, in his role as a creationist, be making inflammatory statements, purely meant to rile us up, annoy us, bait us, trigger us by saying stuff like "evolutionists are all satan worshippers (ok, that one would maybe just make us laugh, but you get the idea), then he would be a trolling poe.

If, instead, he just made statements making creationists look really bad, like, claiming that the Grand Canyon was formed in 5 minutes or that the craters on the Moon were created by water ejaculated from Earth during the Flood, then he would be a humor Poe, like Edward Current. (Although his Poe may be considered "trollish" by Christians who know that he's a Poe, because he's making fun on them by acting like one of them.)

Well, to give everyone the benefit of the doubt on this site, I'd assume these definitions of trolls or even POEs could take a thorough Troll and POE beating via our secret intelligencia rather than moderation super-abilities, as these complaints seem to me more worthwhile than sandbox disputes. If further argument is required here; then consider that these folks generate much interest amongst our membership as a devils' advocate. If they are just around to insult and curse people, well, they already break the rules, and require no further attention.

But any good question asked deserves an answer, and any bad question does not. We're all smart enough to know that stuff.

 

[Gnug215]

Well, to give everyone the benefit of the doubt on this site, I'd assume these definitions of trolls or even POEs could take a thorough Troll and POE beating via our secret intelligencia rather than moderation super-abilities, as these complaints seem to me more worthwhile than sandbox disputes. If further argument is required here; then consider that these folks generate much interest amongst our membership as a devils' advocate. If they are just around to insult and curse people, well, they already break the rules, and require no further attention.

But any good question asked deserves an answer, and any bad question does not. We're all smart enough to know that stuff.

I'm not.... entirely sure what you're saying here.

But... yes, the mods have allowed some people to stay, even though we've basically identified them as trolls.

The difference is between types; WQ is intentionally trolling (which, in case you were in doubt, became glaringly evident through his return), while someone like Tsar was for the most part unintentionally trolling.

These people do generate interest, but it's a thin line between that interest being... productive or entertaining. And it usually gets tiring after a while.

 

[Andiferous]

I do understand to some extent (I've had a bit of practise myself.). Perhaps a personal dialogue would be better for specifics, but at the same time: the delineation of 'troll,' given its' ambiguity, and its' lack of transparency, can be a bit bothersome.

 

[Gnug215]

I do understand to some extent (I've had a bit of practise myself.). Perhaps a personal dialogue would be better for specifics, but at the same time: the delineation of 'troll,' given its' ambiguity, and its' lack of transparency, can be a bit bothersome.

It can be, yes, because some people cry wolf at the sight of a bunny.

Like so many other terms, this one has been misused, abused, watered down and misapplied so many times that it has nearly lost meaning (or at the very least, become totally contingent upon its context.)

 

[Andiferous]

I do understand to some extent (I've had a bit of practise myself.). Perhaps a personal dialogue would be better for specifics, but at the same time: the delineation of 'troll,' given its' ambiguity, and its' lack of transparency, can be a bit bothersome.

It can be, yes, because some people cry wolf at the sight of a bunny.

Like so many other terms, this one has been misused, abused, watered down and misapplied so many times that it has nearly lost meaning (or at the very least, become totally contingent upon its context.)

Don't mind me; you know I can go overboard in text.

As to the previous post: I was suggesting that (I hope) that the existing folks here, and also the future members to the site, won't be third-graders requiring constant supervision. I also have faith that those currently on this site are sharp enough to handle themselves for the most part.

Not to say that there aren't idiots out there who merely spam and disrupt, perhaps that is an example of a troll (though his or her offenses might be covered by the general rules anyway).

What keeps this site alive, is disagreement and good discussion...

I tried to be clear this time, sorry.