Rumraket
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That has already been done.dandan said:Rumraket said:I've already asked you, what the heck you mean by "prove"? What I've shortly described above is the best it is possible to offer using science. If you want more, go somewhere else. No one here is in the business of offering certainty.
Just provide objective evidence that shows that complex things can “evolve” by Darwinian mechanisms.
You never responded to my post about your "complexity" equation. Why is that, dandan? Really?
Nothing in science is certainly true, that doesn't mean every opposing viewpoint merits equal time in science class. There is no controversy about evolution outside of conservative religious institutions, a lack of absolute certainty does not imply there is either.dandan said:If Darwinism is not certainly true, then why shouldn’t teacher teach the controversy?
That's not a problem, because evolution has just as much evidence in support of it. The real problem here is that you fail to understand how the logic of that evidence works.dandan said:You see the problem is that evolutionists typically compare the “theory” of evolution with other true theories like atomic theory, gravity, relativity, germ theory etc.
You seem to be laboring under the delusion that other scientific theories are "certain" or at least, more certain than the theory of evolution. Prove it. Give us the actual numbers.
I have. The evidence offered is both objective and falsifiable. You seem to be mixing up your terms here. Evidence can be both objective and falsifiable without entailing absolute certainty about what that evidence implies. No scientific theory is absolutely certain.dandan said:If you what to say that evolution has the same level of certainty than any other of those theories the list you can show is objective and falsifiable evidence.
You can be skeptical about everything you please and I will tolerate it, that doesn't mean you're being rational in your skepticism. On a related note, accepting atomic theory, or the germ theory of disease but rejecting evolution is to have a double standard. Either that, or you simply don't understand how the how the logic of the evidence for the theory of evolution works.dandan said:If you can´t then you should expect and tolerate skepticism.
Near 100% certainty? How near is "near 100% certainty"? 98%, 99.9%, 99.9999999% ??dandan said:If I ask a “relativist” to prove that gravity alters space and time, I am sure he would provide a testable model that proves with near 100% certainty his claim.
Do what, provide a testable model that "proves with near 100% certainty". What does that even mean?dandan said:why can´t you do the same
You have already been given the models and the statistics of phylogenetic inferences at least 6 times in this thread. You have given exactly ZERO responses.
Because that would be diametrically opposite to demonstrable fact. Evolution is a falsifiable scientific theory (as the above links all testify), that explains an extremely large data set.dandan said:, or simply admit that evoluton is not a scientific theory?