Decentralization of Religious values

[Vanlavak]

I have been pondering how to compromise the beliefs of Religious and non-religious people. Religion holds more then just a way of life, but thousands of years of ancient wisdom. This ancient wisdom is one major motivator for people who seek the words of religious text. One cannot simply ignore the power that the name religion has accumulated. This is why I want the fine scope many of the major religious values to be dissected into detailed bits and then decentralized from religious strongholds into social science.

Anyone up for this?

 

[KittenKoder]

Not a good idea. Attacking the beliefs of any religious cult directly will only create a stronger false unity of the religion. It is why the christian cults merged into the one solid "christian" banner to begin with, they felt challenged by those who do not share their beliefs so they ignored their differences. Would be an admirable trait if not for their ... well flawed set of morals. Even many christians do not agree with blow holes like Glen Beck, yet they still rally behind his presumptuous and vile words, well did.

To truly effect change, you also do not go after the preachers ... unless you know the followers of that specific preacher will be listening. You won't ever change the preacher, but when a follower hears the preacher talk it will start to sew seeds of doubt, eventually helping them deconvert themselves. Your goal should not be to get them to abandon their religion, but convince them instead to be good people.

The preachers are using these debates, in which they can claim victory no matter what and the followers will take their word as fact, to create the unity you see now, the banner of christian being used to slow progress. However, this can work to an advantage without doing anything.

This is different than I had said earlier on the chat, and to those who notice it, it's because after thinking about it, I see this as a golden opportunity to help a lot of people see how badly their beliefs have disconnected them from reality, and how much harm they are causing to others. It does mean that we will lose valuable time, but the end result could be one of such strength that it will rival the formation of the US constitution in the area of civil rights and scientific freedom.

So to sum up, don't attack, make them talk more about their religion. Don't bother with preachers unless you can let them be an example to their followers, they have no intent on changing and many know their religion is all bull. When they ask "do you want to hear about ..." say yes, then ask simple questions that force them to challenge their own flaws.