Debate in youtube comments

[sgrunterundt]

id wrather die and findout thier is no god than live and find out hier is because that principal leads to hell,

What if you go to hell for believing in a god rather than the reverse? You cannot know right?

What you stated was Pascals wager, which has been shown faulty many times. Check out this video about choosing to believe, out of fear of hell : watch?v=fZpJ7yUPwdU

i would agree but god says the only way to, him (heaven) is through jesus christ so i know for sure its not the other way around i mean seriously that is the most negative comment ive ever read

Alas no, the BIBLE says the only way to heaven is through Jesus, you cannot know if the bible holds the absolute truth. Other religious texts says something else. According to the Edda you will go to Hel (spelling correct) unless you die fighting.

If an almighty god has made the universe, but hid every evidence of his existence except a 2000 year old, book, and even planted evidence that it was written and revised by humans, then he is playing a (un)fairly sadistic game.

all thats worth saying is open you eyes the proof is aropund you, but typically ignored by athiests

Yes, and by Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, Pagans, Wiccans and so on.

Seriously I would hate to be ignoring evidence, in particular some that are so important to my future, but when I ask to be shown it I get, noting but personal anecdotes and logical fallacies. I may be wrong, but then why do you think the allmigthy has made me blind to this evidence? And why are billions of other people as convinced as you that they see evidence for something that you know is false?

god even says the heart does not desire what its been deprived from i believe in the christian god because allah and all other "gods" never died for me why am i so convinced, my religion is right thatd be because my bible has the only story from beginning to end no other book has done that or had such scientifical explanations over 3000 years ago that are just now being proven correct today

At the moment I am wondering wether I want to continue this, and what to answer in the precious little space allowed in a youtube comment.

 

[Commander Eagle]

No point. Leave him alone. Guy's obviously got no idea what he's talking about.

 

[lrkun]

id wrather die and findout thier is no god than live and find out hier is because that principal leads to hell,

At the moment I am wondering wether I want to continue this, and what to answer in the precious little space allowed in a youtube comment.

rc8rsracer - Has alread made his or her mind. People like this, you can't convince.

 

[Blood Wraith]

I think the biggest mistake you made was that you willingly engaged in a comments section debate on youtube. The guy doesn't care about what you have to say, he'll just keep spouting shit like this and pretend it's a valid rebuttal:

i believe in the christian god because allah and all other "gods" never died for me

Continuing from this point on would just be an exercise in futility.

 

[simonecuttlefish]

I think the biggest mistake you made was that you willingly engaged in a comments section debate on youtube. The guy doesn't care about what you have to say, he'll just keep spouting shit like this and pretend it's a valid rebuttal

+10 - Do NOT feed the trolls, they are wasting your time deliberately. Don't "debate" people who just vomit rubbish, as there is no dialogue, just a stream of mental disease that you get distracted by while trying to pour sanity disinfectant over it. Let them fester.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

The only thing dumber than arguing in YouTube comments is maybe asking other people to join the argument. Just let it go, you'll be happier.

 

[FaithlessThinker]

I hate debating in YouTube comments. The sheer limit of 500 characters just makes things hard. You have to post several comments when your argument is lengthy. This also introduces the problem of splitting the debate into several branches, because the other party is very likely to reply to some of these comments, not the whole argument.

And there is no way to post links. YouTube doesn't allow links in comments, so I have to mask them by adding spaces.

I'd rather bring the debate to a forum. Ask him to join LoR and continue the debate.

Nowadays, I just ignore the YouTube comments I get in reply to my non-debate comments. It's just not worth the effort.

 

[DeusExNihilum]

The guys first comment alone says "leave me alone, I am dangerous to your health"

the very fact you persisted is more a commentary on you than him.

 

[Jotto999]

As others have mentioned, it is typically a waste of time to debate people in the comments section of YouTube. A few things make it a completely unsuitable debating arena. For one, the 500 character limit pretty much guarantees lower quality comments. It encourages short and poorly constructed arguments while making it also more difficult to refute those of others.

I have debated in the YouTube comments. Never did I successfully affect someone's opinion in a constructive way, despite some good attempts.

You have almost zero chance of changing this person's mind. The way they seem to have decided their opinion before reasoning it makes this apparent.

Though it can be very tempting to get into it, I sincerely recommend not bothering. Rate the comment down or something and leave it.

The guys first comment alone says "leave me alone, I am dangerous to your health"

the very fact you persisted is more a commentary on you than him.

I disagree somewhat, I think there is a much stronger (and worse) impression given from the other person. The OP seems to mean well, based on the comments, it could easily be that the OP doesn't have the experience to know which debates are futile and which can be constructive.

 

[Story]

I'm actually a bit of a sadist and enjoy YouTube debates. I love how it forces me to be concise.

 

[sgrunterundt]

I disagree somewhat with most of the thread here. In his first comment he seemed somewhat agnostic, stating that it is mostly Pascals wager that makes him believe.

I just tried to make him think a little, opening his eyes to the fact that there are many religions out there, and that they believe just as strongly as christians. I have no hope of converting him instantly, just - making him think a little.

I think often, even if reason is completely denied on the outside, it starts stirring a bit on the inside.

I'm actually a bit of a sadist and enjoy YouTube debates. I love how it forces me to be concise.

Hehe, yeah, exactly.

 

[Story]

I disagree somewhat with most of the thread here. In his first comment he seemed somewhat agnostic, stating that it is mostly Pascals wager that makes him believe.

I agree...

I think the best reply from there would have been.

"You know you actually have a point, maybe I should just continue being religious because in the end I don't know. I'm going to take your advice and continue being Muslim. Muhammed didn't die for the sins of rapists and murderers or the war crimes of Hitler and other genocidal maniacs, he died fighting for the freedom of everyone to practice their beliefs. Rapists and murderers will still be judged for what they did."

 

[borrofburi]

Yeh... I do engage a youtube comment or two, once in a while... My most recent exchange was with someone who believed the sun must be solid because the ideal gas law says so (incidentally he also believes gravity doesn't exist (I think, he refused to be perfectly clear on that point)). He kept making bald assertions, some of which were wrong (he claimed the ideal glass law is always true everywhere, regardless of scale; this is simply false), and eventually led to the following end to the exchange (which I think is hilarious):


(the ant scenario is my example of why local phenomena are NOT always representative of reality: a very smart ant would have a very difficult time discovering that the earth is an oblate spheroid (nearly impossible, I think), because local phenomena such as waves and hills are so potent at that scale that they obscure the curvature; he seemed to deny that on the cosmic scale things might work a little differently than here on earth, and I was pointing out that ALL of his reasons for doing so were no more valid than the ant "proving" the earth was not an oblate spheroid (with the precise reasoning that he used); basically the point was that, yes, gravity applies at all scales, but that local phenomena *can* obscure more subtle things such as the force of gravity or the curvature of the earth)

@borrofburi

You've done a fantastic job of deconstructing your hypothetical ant scenario and entirely sidestepping the actual facts of the matter. Gravity models have failed for, over a century and will continue to fail when presented with new observations. When a model has to become more complex and untestable to "explain" new observations, it's wrong.

@fertilizerspike
You make a lot of claims and claims of evidence, but you, don't do much presenting of evidence.

And the golden egg that makes it all worth it:

@borrofburi

What the fuck more do you want,, shall I copy and paste the fucking sun into this comment so you can observe the cocksucker? Eat my ass, you fucking troll.

Hehe, it still makes me chuckle. I'm not even sure why; I think it's the insane overreaction of it.

 

[Story]

Hehe, it still makes me chuckle. I'm not even sure why; I think it's the insane overreaction of it.

Copy-paste the sun :lol:

That's classic.

 

[nasher168]

Oh, Fertilizerspike... I've spoken to him before. The phrase "Eat my ass, you fucking troll" is one he uses in every single debate he gets into. :roll:

 

[borrofburi]

Oh, Fertilizerspike... I've spoken to him before. The phrase "Eat my ass, you fucking troll" is one he uses in every single debate he gets into. :roll:

Awww, I'm not special

 

[monitoradiation]

Awww, I'm not special

I'd be scared if you were someone special to this person, honestly.