australopithecus
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"Religion is an evil that needs to be addressed"
http://www.leagueofreason.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=51&p=131276#p131276
http://www.leagueofreason.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=51&p=131276#p131276
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What is?tuxbox said:It is a flawed argument.
ImprobableJoe said:What is?tuxbox said:It is a flawed argument.
"Religion is evil" is a statement, not an argument. At least let Inferno make his case, right?tuxbox said:That religion is evil and it should be replaced. I will not get into the specifics on why it is flawed, since it is an on going debate, as it would not be fair to Inferno to give Gramarye ideas.
ImprobableJoe said:"Religion is evil" is a statement, not an argument. At least let Inferno make his case, right?tuxbox said:That religion is evil and it should be replaced. I will not get into the specifics on why it is flawed, since it is an on going debate, as it would not be fair to Inferno to give Gramarye ideas.
To a Muslim, jihadism is not terrorism; they use the term 'al-jihad fi sabil Allah', which means striving in the way of Allah.
Gramarye said:To paraphrase the cliche, one man's terrorist is another man's guerilla fighter.
Laurens said:I think I'd personally phrase it: 'Religion gives justification to evil that would otherwise have no justification and needs to be addressed for that reason' rather than 'Religion is an evil that needs to be addressed'
Of course that does not have the same ring to it and its not as succinct, but it's a more defensible statement if you ask me.
Is religion 'the great cop-out' as Dawkins claims? No. People of faith spend significant intellectual effort considering and analysing their faith; I give as example the Talmud, (in Hebrew תַּלְמוּד 'learning'); the many volumes of which are rabbinical guidance on Jewish law, ethics, philosophy, customs and history. Dawkins states that 'Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence'. For years people believed in relativity as a theory. In 2011 it was finally proved at Stanford (http://www.newsy.com/videos/proving-einstein-s-theory-worth-it/) and then disproved (http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/204110/scientists-prove-einsteins-theory-of-relativity-wrong.html).
Gramarye said:For years people believed in relativity as a theory. In 2011 it was finally proved at Stanford (http://www.newsy.com/videos/proving-einstein-s-theory-worth-it/) and then disproved (http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/204110/scientists-prove-einsteins-theory-of-relativity-wrong.html).
)O( Hytegia )O( said:This is going to be a fairly interesting discussion -
you see, the idea that religion is an evil that should be replaced, as a statement, shows a somewhat blatant disregard for the several billion people that are religious and don't do anything horrific nor deny science, and instead focuses upon a select group whom, for all anyone could guess, could behave like that simply because of several other factors aside from the belief itself.