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"Christian Owned Business"

DeistPaladin

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I just ran across an ad where a company seems to feel that being "Christian Owned" is a selling point. Actually, living as I do in Bible Belt America, it probably is. As one who's never been a believer, it's sometimes easy for me to underestimate the bigotry of some Christians. My initial reaction was "WTF does your irrational beliefs in the metaphysical have to do with your products or services? Do you call upon the power of prayer or the Holy Spirit to make sure your products work?"

The implication here is that a business owned by a "good Christian" will be more honestly and effectively run than by one managed by drug-addled, sex-crazed amoral scummy atheists who obviously have no sense of decency without the fear of Hell in their hearts.

I'm sure everyone is aware of the prison population statistics or how more atheistic societies have fewer problems than pious America with crime or other troubling social indicators. Yet the perception that piety and irrational belief promote morality persist as strongly as the religious beliefs themselves.

My father advised me to never trust anyone who wears his religion on his sleeve, that he's likely either a con-artist or overcompensating for some moral weakness. I unfortunately had to learn the hard way that he was right. The only Christian friend I ever had betrayed my confidence, lied to me and then refused to apologize.

True moral character is built upon a foundation of honesty. Honesty with others is built on the foundation of being honest with yourself. This means being willing to face harsh realities as they are instead of indulging in fantasies or persisting in comforting delusions despite the contrary evidence. How can I trust someone who boasts of his/her irrationality, hypocrisy and self-deception?

Christianity further muddies our moral judgment by demonizing harmless activities as "evil" while lauding non-productive or even destructive actions as "good". The primary "evils" the Bible and Koran seem obsessed with are apostasy, blasphemy and idolatry. Homosexuality, or love between those with similar body parts, is the favorite "moral" crusade of modern Christians. Meanwhile, useless activities like prayer and rituals are seen as virtues. Stem cell research, which could help alleviate so much suffering, is "evil" while abstinence-only sex education, a sure-fire way to increase teen pregnancy and the spread of STDs, is "good". All this is to ignore the torture, terror and bloodshed inspired by pious devotion over the ages.

To the Christian who would ask me why I should be moral if I don't believe in a rewarding, punishing, personal god, I would ask why he or she should be moral since they have such an easy out for all of their transgressions. All they have to do is apologize to their imaginary friend, instead of the one they've wronged, and all is forgiven. This assumes they even recognize their own bad behavior, since anyone who can rationalize their absurd beliefs can just as easy justify their own actions.

I'm so fucking pissed.

How about these ad tag-lines:

"Rationally Owned Business: We rely on proven science and technology"

"Rationally Owned Business: If we screw up, we'll apologize to YOU and make it right instead of asking Jesus to forgive us."

"Rationally Owned Business: We're ready to prove ourselves."
 
arg-fallbackName="Otokogoroshi"/>
I understand your frustration... and by the way that's a great bit of advice from your dad!

Personally when I see that Jesus fish on a sign of a business card I instantly decide not to do business with them. I don't want to seem prejudice but... what does Jesus have to do with plumbing!? That's seriously the most common place I see it! On plumber signs/cards! Unclogging toliets in the name of god?

There is actually this in joke between me and my friends about "Jesus chicken" Not sure if you've heard of Chick-fil-a but its this fast food place (with crazy good chicken nuggets) and I love it. One day I was in there and I noticed a plaque. Now. I read everything. EVERYTHING. So I instantly toddled over and read it. To paraphrase: "We glorify god through our business"

My first reaction was bafflement. What about deep fried chicken has anything to do with Jesus? Every since then we say its "Jesus Chicken" and if my friends mention the full name of the place I utter a frustrated "God damnit!"

Its just to me seems to trivialize their religion. First and foremost didn't Jesus teach to be subtle, not to wear it on your sleeve and preach it to the masses or some odd shit?

Its a sad day when an non-believer thinks you fail at your own religion :p
 
arg-fallbackName="ImprobableJoe"/>
I won't eat at Chik-Fil-Jeebus... I just won't. I won't do business with anyone who promotes their business as being religion-related, unless it is an absolute emergency.

DeistPaladin, I feel the way your father does: people who shout about how religious they are tend to be the sort of folks who can't be trusted. If you give good service, you would advertise it. If you don't, you advertise something else like your religion. People who brag about things unrelated to their craft do so because they can't brag about their skill. I don't want a Christian barber, or a Christian mechanic... I want someone who is COMPETENT! I don't care if my doctor drowns kittens for fun if they can treat my cancer effectively!
 
arg-fallbackName="Gnomesmusher"/>
Hey if it works for politicians then it's going to work for businesses! It also pisses me off when I hear people say stuff like "Yes, he's a good man, he's Christian". Argh.
 
arg-fallbackName="Otokogoroshi"/>
Gnomesmusher said:
Hey if it works for politicians then it's going to work for businesses! It also pisses me off when I hear people say stuff like "Yes, he's a good man, he's Christian". Argh.


Which in the news is often followed up by: "I had no clue he was a raving psychopath! Why would he kill his entire family and vanish?"
 
arg-fallbackName="irmerk"/>
Well, I guess all that is left to say is welcome to the League of Reason, where to reason ain't treason (Made by pigu0606).
 
arg-fallbackName="DeistPaladin"/>
Well, I guess all that is left to say is welcome to the League of Reason

Thank you. I've been here before, under the boards initial incarnation. It's always a pleasure to be among rational thinkers.
 
arg-fallbackName="felixthecoach"/>
Diest, where in the bible belt are u from? I'm in Nashville. I used to work for a gymnastics business where the owner said we had to teach a bible verse to the students and pray out loud with them before starting class. Yeah....
 
arg-fallbackName="DeistPaladin"/>
Louisville, KY. Overall, I like it here but the politics and pervasiveness of religion are sometimes discouraging.
 
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