Greg the Grouper
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TJump said:Pantheists are atheists (total atheist)
Christians as partial atheists, because they lack belief in many gods but not all
Makes perfect sense
No, it doesn't. Again, the way you defined atheism entails that anyone that doesn't believe in at least one god is an atheist. There is no 'partial atheist' there; Christians don't believe in at least one god and are therefore atheists, full stop.
Oh, by the way:
http://leagueofreason.org.uk/viewtopic.php?p=187284#p187284
TJump said:It's not relevant to the argument... they just wasting my time which is why i blocked them.
Pantheism defines God as an non personal eternal non contingent origin of everything, i.e. eternal universe. Which means it is effectively the same as atheism.
This would not fit the theists definition of God, but there definition is no more or less valid than any other.
http://leagueofreason.org.uk/viewtopic.php?p=187381#p187381
TJump said:all of creation being god <--- never a definition i used..... that's the strawman the idiot used.
My definition = eternal all powerful non personal universe
TJump said:Pantheists are atheists
None of these are the same claim. Example: all Pantheists can be Atheists even if Pantheism isn't effectively the same as Atheism, but is instead a sub-category of Atheism. Not to mention you literally say in the first claim here that Pantheism defines God as the eternal universe, ie that the universe is a god. Which one of these claims did you actually want to go with?