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Dragan Glas said:
Greetings,

There seems to be some confusion about who removes hats when entering a church.

Men are expected to remove their head-wear - women aren't.

To put it into perspective regarding mosques; policemen would be allowed to wear their helmets/hats - women would be expected to wear a suitable head-scarf.

Additionally, in Israel, female tourists are not permitted to visit/pray at The Wall with men - and gentile male tourists are expected to wear the cap as worn by male Jews.

Kindest regards,

James

Churches, mosques and other such places can enforce whatever dress code they want on regular civilians, just like I can enforce my own dress code in my own home. I don't have a problem with that.

Police are a different matter. If they have a warrant I can't just say "well I don't like their uniform so I'm not going to let them in".

I hope that helps.

Looks like you're hankering for a spot on CSTDT to compliment your place on FSTDT. Duly noted.

Jesus Christ, read fucking chapter 9 of the Qur'an. It's not my fault the book commands its followers to become dominant over non-Muslims.

And if you're still not convinced, read Ibn Kathir's commentary on chapter 9 (you can read it online for free, google Tafsir Ibn Kathir - a favorite of DawahFilms by the way ;) ), or read Reliance of the Traveler (also online for free). The fact is, subjugation of non-believers is a part of Islamic tradition, it's not some idea made up by Bin Laden or by some tiny heretical sect that supposedly misunderstood its peaceful and tolerant teachings.

This doesn't mean all Muslims are going to follow it, but it's delusional political correctness to assume it's an extremely tiny minority and just dismiss every single poll as "right-wing".

Secondly, there is a clear pattern among many Islamic NGOs in the USA (CAIR, ICNA, ISNA, MSA etc.) of support for Islamic supremacism. On the surface they claim to be moderate and are often invited to various TV shows to speak on issues related to the Muslim community, and the media looks up to them as "moderates" and yet CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas funding case, their founders were part of of the Islamic Association for Palestine and in the past made statements saying they would like America to become Islamic.

Recently someone in their NY division also made the statement on Twitter: "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" which is often used by Palestinian terrorists to mean the abolition of the entire state of Israel.

ICNA pretty much admits in its own charters that it wants Islam to dominate and many other organizations are listed as Muslim Brotherhood front groups in a document called "An Explanatory Memorandum".

So where exactly is this overwhelming 99.99% moderate, democratic-loving and fairly secular Muslim majority?
 
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Dogma's Demise said:
Dragan Glas said:
Greetings,

There seems to be some confusion about who removes hats when entering a church.

Men are expected to remove their head-wear - women aren't.

To put it into perspective regarding mosques; policemen would be allowed to wear their helmets/hats - women would be expected to wear a suitable head-scarf.

Additionally, in Israel, female tourists are not permitted to visit/pray at The Wall with men - and gentile male tourists are expected to wear the cap as worn by male Jews.

Kindest regards,

James

Churches, mosques and other such places can enforce whatever dress code they want on regular civilians, just like I can enforce my own dress code in my own home. I don't have a problem with that.

Police are a different matter. If they have a warrant I can't just say "well I don't like their uniform so I'm not going to let them in".

I hope that helps.
The male members of the police force do so as a politeness - indeed there's no rule that says a male civilian has to do so, though not doing so was (is) considered a insult to God.

And police officers are entitled to enter a place of worship, with or without removing their head-wear - warrants or not.

Also, the concept of "sanctuary" was used by the Church, in earlier times, to protect individuals who requested it from lords who abused their power. However, it was not always respected.

Kindest regards,

James
 
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Speaking of Fred Phelps, what would you say about DawahFilms coming to the UK? :p Given his open support for the death penalty for apostates in Islam.
 
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Dogma's Demise said:
Police are a different matter. If they have a warrant I can't just say "well I don't like their uniform so I'm not going to let them in".

The issue with warrants is something you have invented. It's a straw man, no one has said police women cannot enter mosques without scarves even if there is a warrant.
 
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Gnug215 said:
Well now, DD, now I'm beginning to think you're just here to argue, seeing as you totally ignored posts by myself, Wark and Televator, only to jump straight into your usual slugfest with armpits and Prole.

I'm not sure why you insist on doing that, and doing it in the same fashion as always. Surely you do not expect different results from repeating yourself over and over?

He sure makes it difficult to...ugh...help him -- albeit for reasons from purely secular ideals rather than "ZOMG MOZLUMS!"

Fuck it. Far be it from me to go out of my way for him...
 
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