Re: Atheism is the lack of belief in god... QualiaSoup's tak
The objective fact that their is no belief in a god will not arise in said universe. Instead, as a third person, you see the pattern, because it exists here in our universe where you were exposed to the knowledge of theism as well as atheism. ^-^ You're seeing a pattern. You're calling something atheism because here, we coined a term to it.
Like I said, you recognize what you see if you know something about it.
I agree with you. After all, we're not talking about a god, but the belief in a god. The question whether such exists or not, is another issue in it's entirety.
TheFlyingBastard said:lrkun said:In a universe where no one believes in a god, there are no atheists. A person in such a universe might be called a child, a boy, a girl, a man, a woman, a scientist, a biologist, a doctor, or a farmer, but not atheist, because there is no theist. We can say they are atheists because in our reality some people believe in a god and when we compare our reality to theirs, we see that one factor as a difference.
You mean in such a universe "thewordconcept atheist" isn't there.
If nobody in the universe would believe in a god, everybody would still be an atheist. They wouldn't have thatwordconcept because, as you just said, there's no reason for it to be there - but the logical absolute (people = atheist) still exists.
I'll extend that to concept, because that's probably what you're talking about. (edit)
Words are a way to convey a concept in the mind which is used to reflect an objective fact.
Even if there was no word because there was no mind to form the concept, the objective fact would still be true.
The objective fact that their is no belief in a god will not arise in said universe. Instead, as a third person, you see the pattern, because it exists here in our universe where you were exposed to the knowledge of theism as well as atheism. ^-^ You're seeing a pattern. You're calling something atheism because here, we coined a term to it.
Like I said, you recognize what you see if you know something about it.
"God does not need to NOT exist, for him to NOT exist."
I agree with you. After all, we're not talking about a god, but the belief in a god. The question whether such exists or not, is another issue in it's entirety.