Aronra is dunning Kruger personified (A)-theism

[TrueEmpiricism]

[Youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JPGrGRbls0[/Youtube]

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

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(Fixed your video.)

I will just repeat the comment I left on your video.

Squabbling over semantics is a sure sign that you do not have any actual arguments.

Honestly, what difference does it make? One person’s atheism is another person’s agnosticism, is another person’s deism. So what? The facts that should matter are the points anyone is trying to make. AronRa defines (and calls) himself an atheist because it stands for having a lack of belief in deities to him. As long as both parties can agree that AronRa’s position is that he has a lack of belief in deities, what is the big deal?

In addition, does this mean you are abandoning your other thread as you abandoned the thread AronRa created just for you?

 

[TrueEmpiricism]

He who is noobody





He who is nobody why do you keep going back to that thread? As for the post on my video, Its silly that's why I didn't respond I have arguments from
the bible and morality to science and on. Its funny how you are quick to jump on me over the issue of "semantics" but where is your intrigue on those such as aronra or matt d who has popularized this agnostic atheist knowledge and belief crap? As to where they also tend to look at 1 definition and ignore all the other definitions? So am I to blame for taking into account the OTHER definitions? Perhaps your beef is more so the unfavorable understanding of the implications of these other definitions ? Your approach to the vid is very one sided and a refusal to be objective to what I am saying because aronra is the atheist and I am not. Because I am not wearing the blue team jersey and the red one type of thing I suspect as a typical tribal mentality of youtube atheist.

 

[Mugnuts]

I have a feeling that my labeling of TE as Mr. Dunning-Kruger personified (a few months ago) must have really got to him. He has now taken the wording of my description of him and is now using it on AronRa. Neato. How original he is.

If you wear your position on your sleeve for everyone to see, know and experience then someone can label me whatever they want. It does nothing to change my position.

Non-Believer, Infidel, Heretic, Atheist, Agnostic, Asshole, Gentile, Heathen, Non-worshiper, Unbeliever...

When people try to define what someones elses position is then try to point out why it's wrong.... :evil: like Sye Ten and TE...well that's just pathetic.

 

[TrueEmpiricism]

[sarcasm]Please mugnuts my life circles around you, don't accuse me of dunning Kruger[/sarcasm]

:roll:

I don't redefine anybody's position. But I do call into question their position if it is inconstant with there views especially in this supposed "great debate" that effect the listeners so personally.

 

[Mugnuts]

[sarcasm]Please mugnuts my life circles around you, don't accuse me of dunning Kruger[/sarcasm]

:roll:

I don't redefine anybody's position. But I do call into question their position if it is inconstant with there views especially in this supposed "great debate" that effect the listeners so personally.

I'm not accusing you of anything. It's more of an astute observation from reading your posts, and watching some of your videos. I do believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that is was Inferno that mentioned your aversion to Dunning-Kruger way back when. I just added the 'personified' for dramatic effect/affect (not sure which one to use here)

Redefine, (mis)interpret, tomato tomaato. Whatever.

By the way, I like watching your videos. You have helped me learn some interesting things that help me with my career.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

He who is noobody





He who is nobody why do you keep going back to that thread? As for the post on my video, Its silly that's why I didn't respond I have arguments from
the bible and morality to science and on. Its funny how you are quick to jump on me over the issue of "semantics" but where is your intrigue on those such as aronra or matt d who has popularized this agnostic atheist knowledge and belief crap? As to where they also tend to look at 1 definition and ignore all the other definitions? So am I to blame for taking into account the OTHER definitions? Perhaps your beef is more so the unfavorable understanding of the implications of these other definitions ? Your approach to the vid is very one sided and a refusal to be objective to what I am saying because aronra is the atheist and I am not. Because I am not wearing the blue team jersey and the red one type of thing I suspect as a typical tribal mentality of youtube atheist.

First off, I would not consider myself a YouTube atheist. Second, your whole video is semantics. As I said, AronRa calls himself an atheist because he defines it as one that lacks belief in deities. Essentially AronRa is using the term atheist as a shorthand for you to understand his position. There is no point in bringing up other definitions of the word if both parties can agree that in a discussion with AronRa, atheist means one who has a lack of belief in deities. Your attempt to conflate AronRa’s atheism with other definitions of atheism exposes that you do not wish to explore the deeper points of any discussion and is a logical fallacy, thus should not be used in any argument in the first place.

Also, please share your arguments with us. The caliber of our current creationists is sub-par if I say so myself. Perhaps, you will raise the bar a bit. Furthermore, your accusation of me choosing AronRa’s side simply because he is the atheist is juvenile. I have disagreed with many atheists over many things, including AronRa on this very forum.

Oh, and the reason I am bringing up those two other threads is because you created one and appeared to have abandoned it when the questions became too tough. In addition, you were invited here to have a discussion with AronRa, yet abandoned that one as well. However, it appears you are trying to get AronRa’s attention with all the videos you are creating about him. If that is the case, why not just start posting in that thread again and restart your discussion?

I don't redefine anybody's position. But I do call into question their position if it is inconstant with there views especially in this supposed "great debate" that effect the listeners so personally.

:facepalm:

The video you posted in this thread is you redefining AronRa’s atheism in order for it to appear as if AronRa’s position is in conflict with itself. Again, your whole argument is one based off semantics and not actually what AronRa’s position truly is. Thus, you are wrong to claim you are not redefining anyone’s position.

 

[Collecemall]

Is the post hopping thing a theist requirement or something? Is it a tactic trying to induce attrition or what? It seems to be an epidemic here.

 

[Mugnuts]

He needed to post this under a new thread so he could get AronRa's attention.

And yes, there is a perpetual Creationist Whack a mole running a muck.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

Apparently, AronRa has much bigger fish to fry.

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[Mugnuts]

''Hmmm, should I go with the Green Screen or film in my car?''

Tough call, but the Green Screen is a better choice.

 

[Visaki]

''Hmmm, should I go with the Green Screen or film in my car?''

Tough call, but the Green Screen is a better choice.

Green screan at least gives you more options. Though you can end up looking like Ian Juby. Not that I have anything against car videos, at least if the audio is good enough.

One thing that bothers me about the new Aron Ra videos is that he tries to make them look like one shoot, though it's a composite of many. He should make the transitions from one take to another somehow differently, the current way bugs me.

 

[Mugnuts]

I like it better when he at least has some fun doing the videos. It seems like this one hurt a bit to do it. I guess it can get fairly frustrating having to refute the same ol nonsense over and over again.

It's a good video to let TE, and others like G Man know that they are wasting their time poking at Aron. He's going after the money makers and policy changers, not the wannabes and cronies. They are not playing in the same league at all. Painful and sad really.

 

[Visaki]

Indeed. Aron has moved beyond "mere" youtube activism into the real world. He has bigger fish to fry, bigger threats to deal with and people with real power to pester.

On a totally side track; Aron complained (not really) in the last Ramen podcast that he hasn't gotten any invite to the Bill Maher show (ulike their guest in the podcast). Personally I think Aron would make a good guest. I mean who wouldn't like the vocal, militant, angry, agressive, vitriolic, strident atheist that looks the part, and not someone that looks like some professor from Cambridge, to be on that, or any other, show?

 

[WarK]

On a totally side track; Aron complained (not really) in the last Ramen podcast that he hasn't gotten any invite to the Bill Maher show ...

He should smack Bill Maher for being an anit-vaxer.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

On a totally side track; Aron complained (not really) in the last Ramen podcast that he hasn't gotten any invite to the Bill Maher show ...

He should smack Bill Maher for being an anit-vaxer.

It would bring much joy to my heart to hear about someone going on Bill Maher’s show and calling him out on his anti-vaccination stance. Bill Maher believes that religion is dangerous and teaching it to children is akin to child abuse. Un-vaccinated children are dangerous and it should be seeing as child abuse. Thus, what is his excuse?

 

[SpecialFrog]

I have seen a guest call Maher out on this. Maher claimed he wasn't anti-vax. However, his attempts to explain his position were vague and seemed to imply he didn't accept germ theory.

This is from memory so I'll try to find the clip.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

I have seen a guest call Maher out on this. Maher claimed he wasn't anti-vax. However, his attempts to explain his position were vague and seemed to imply he didn't accept germ theory.

This is from memory so I'll try to find the clip.

He does not accept germ theory (I have heard this same thing from other people before). Just wow! To be honest, I do not see the difference between Bill Maher’s rejection of established science and a creationist’s rejection of established science. The fact that they stand opposed to science is what is upsetting to me. It is reasons like this that I wish the U.S. did a much better job educating our population on scientific matters.

 

[SpecialFrog]

Found it.

He is pretending that no one has ever done a cost-benefit analysis of vaccination.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

Found it.

[snipped for space]

He is pretending that no one has ever done a cost-benefit analysis of vaccination.

The audience clapping for Bill Maher when he suggests having a debate about this topic and him claiming that it is not decided science like climate change is nuts. I cannot believe he is saying shit like this and people just eat it up. He also makes the age-old mistake of confusing thimerosal as mercury. How can anyone that knows anything take this man’s opinion seriously?