Arc Survival?

[Your Funny Uncle]

Just saw a link to this place on Facebook. apparently they've been advertising in Private Eye.

http://www.arcsurvival.com/

I've rarely seen so much conspiracy bullshit and woo in one place. I'd call Poe except it costs a bit to advertise in national magazines. Has anyone heard of these people? Are they scam-artists? Are they actually for real?

 

[Cephei]

"If you do not have expendable liquid funds available to you, to cover as a minimum of one point five million euros for each member of your family, please do not continue."
My bullshit senses are tingling.

Upon reading it a bit further, it seems like a joke. It's just too well-written and neatly organized to be the work of some insane conspiracy theorist.

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

I felt my IQ go down seeing that website.

 

[Your Funny Uncle]

"If you do not have expendable liquid funds available to you, to cover as a minimum of one point five million euros for each member of your family, please do not continue."
My bullshit senses are tingling.

That's what I thought, but is it bullshit as in a joke or bullshit as in a scam trying to see if they can actually get money out of gullible rich people?

 

[SpaceCDT]

These events being the catalyst for China to invade Taiwan, North Korea to invade South Korea and hey presto we have the third world war which will basically reduce the worlds population down to an estimated 1 billion people, at which point the new world order will step in and offer a safe, secure, peace full future for all, tagged, bagged, and chipped.

Surely anyone who writes, "hey presto" can't be genuine!

 

[Netheralian]

I hope there is someone out there that is archiving this kind of bullshit to send it straight back to the authors in early 2013. Just for shits and giggles of course...

 

[ImprobableJoe]

Why is it spelled "ARC" in the URL, and "ARK" on the website?

 

[Memeticemetic]

Why is it spelled "ARC" in the URL, and "ARK" on the website?

Because he was referring to the survival of circle fragments, not mythical boats.

 

[ExeFBM]

Has to be a scam. Anything that claims

"We are experts in cutting edge free energy technology, of which we have perfected and have gone to great lengths to secure."

and

"Natural and homeopathic healing will play a major role, and we are already very advanced with this including treatments and cures for previously thought incurable diseases."

sets off the warning bells.

Taking out the ad is a bold move, but if you can just get one sucker to hand over 1.5 million you're into a healthy profit. They spend a lot of time talking up the secrecy, so you'd never be able to see the ARK, and they want a personal meeting with you before you get any details. Kinda reminiscent of the Nigerian banker emails, but scaled up to include a web site and advertising. I'd be interested to see how well this does.

 

[kenandkids]

Has to be a scam. Anything that claims

"We are experts in cutting edge free energy technology, of which we have perfected and have gone to great lengths to secure."

and

"Natural and homeopathic healing will play a major role, and we are already very advanced with this including treatments and cures for previously thought incurable diseases."

sets off the warning bells.

Taking out the ad is a bold move, but if you can just get one sucker to hand over 1.5 million you're into a healthy profit. They spend a lot of time talking up the secrecy, so you'd never be able to see the ARK, and they want a personal meeting with you before you get any details. Kinda reminiscent of the Nigerian banker emails, but scaled up to include a web site and advertising. I'd be interested to see how well this does.

Reminds me of the "utopian" cults in the 1980's, people would actually pay great amounts and go through an indoctrination to reserve a spot on the boat or submarine or island or, or, or. Pictures were shown and promises of luxury made, yet these vehicles and/or refuges simply didn't exist. They also made sweeping claims of superior technology and medicine that they "withheld" from society or recently "discovered" from Atlantis and other nonsense.

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

Has to be a scam. Anything that claims

"We are experts in cutting edge free energy technology, of which we have perfected and have gone to great lengths to secure."

and

"Natural and homeopathic healing will play a major role, and we are already very advanced with this including treatments and cures for previously thought incurable diseases."

sets off the warning bells.

Taking out the ad is a bold move, but if you can just get one sucker to hand over 1.5 million you're into a healthy profit. They spend a lot of time talking up the secrecy, so you'd never be able to see the ARK, and they want a personal meeting with you before you get any details. Kinda reminiscent of the Nigerian banker emails, but scaled up to include a web site and advertising. I'd be interested to see how well this does.

Reminds me of the "utopian" cults in the 1980's, people would actually pay great amounts and go through an indoctrination to reserve a spot on the boat or submarine or island or, or, or. Pictures were shown and promises of luxury made, yet these vehicles and/or refuges simply didn't exist. They also made sweeping claims of superior technology and medicine that they "withheld" from society or recently "discovered" from Atlantis and other nonsense.

Anyone "withholding" medicine or "free energy technology" is either:

• 
  crazy thinking that it exists
  a scam artist trying to get money
  someone evil for withholding things which benefit mankind for profit

 

[Master_Ghost_Knight]

Reminds me of the "utopian" cults in the 1980's, people would actually pay great amounts and go through an indoctrination to reserve a spot on the boat or submarine or island or, or, or. Pictures were shown and promises of luxury made, yet these vehicles and/or refuges simply didn't exist. They also made sweeping claims of superior technology and medicine that they "withheld" from society or recently "discovered" from Atlantis and other nonsense.
Anyone "withholding" medicine or "free energy technology" is either:

• 
  crazy thinking that it exists
  a scam artist trying to get money
  someone evil for withholding things which benefit mankind for profit

Fixed.

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

Reminds me of the "utopian" cults in the 1980's, people would actually pay great amounts and go through an indoctrination to reserve a spot on the boat or submarine or island or, or, or. Pictures were shown and promises of luxury made, yet these vehicles and/or refuges simply didn't exist. They also made sweeping claims of superior technology and medicine that they "withheld" from society or recently "discovered" from Atlantis and other nonsense.
Anyone "withholding" medicine or "free energy technology" is either:

• 
  crazy thinking that it exists
  a scam artist trying to get money
  someone evil for withholding things which benefit mankind for profit

Fixed.

Maybe I have seen too many movies.

 

[RichardMNixon]

These people also have no idea how to use apostrophes.

 

[KnowingLaughter]

It is such a badly constructed and written site, has grammatical errors, awful punctuation, uses slang, offers information without actually informing etc etc. It is so obviously a scam - or a wind-up.

Particularly this:

You will need to be prepared to place funds into an irrevocable letter of credit attached to a contact agreeable to both parties, for no less than 60% of the total required amount. The IRL will include a 10% penalty clause if for any reason you choose to pull out before or after our meetings.

Once the initial meetings and checks have taken place and you are hopefully offered a place. You and your family must decide if you wish to join or not, before receiving detailed information about many aspects of Ark village including location. If you choose not to join your monies will be refunded to you less 10%.

This reminds me of holiday home scams where you invest before you see the property, once your money goes through you are offered the chance to see the property - which is inevitably not up to the standards the customer was expecting, they are then offered the chance to back out and recieve their monies back minus 10% of course for 'admin' or such. This way one cheap property can be used to generate a lot of profits for scammer scumbags. That is what I would expect anyway.

But on another tangent - if the creator of this site was genuine he would understand that the "elite" would expect more than a poorly constructed site and a dodgy fax adress to convince them of his ramblings. This feels more like a high school students wind-up project.

And for the money shot:

This is not a joke, or scam, this is real.

If what you are offering is real, it speaks for itself. Without exception in my life any time I have seen "this is not a ..." - it is.

It's a strange site - If he was pandering to the foil-hatters he has priced himself out of the market, if he is targeting the "elite" he must realise that he is not offering a convincing product, and talks like a conspiracy theorist - something I am guessing would turn off someone intelligent enough to make millions of monies... for that reason I am thinking it could be a wind-up site, a joke project or - on a limb here - a 'false flag' site (where a foil-hatter makes a site claiming it to be of the "elite" and uses this as proof of their conspiracy theory). I pick - at random - wind-up.

 

[KnowingLaughter]

Just stumbled across another similar site, slightly better design, all the same failings. This one is only $50,000 per adult / $25,000 per child. (although it is honest enough to mention that it hasn't been built yet.) Much more likely to dupe some gullible people I think.

http://www.terravivos.com/

*edited to correct pricing.

 

[FaithlessThinker]

The Arc Survival looks like a mere joke (like the "Download RAM" website).

But the Vivos website is rather well done and has a registration process which requests for sensitive information. I proceeded to page 2 of the registration process by faking information. I expected page 2 to ask for credit card info (which would prove this to be a scam), but it only contained a lengthy questionnaire of 18 questions.

And if you check out their "Tour of Nebraska Facility" video, it seems to be shot in some paddy field (look at their "nuclear blast detector" :lol: ) and in some abandoned building or warehouse of some sort (considering how new the Vivos logo sticker looks, compared to everything else). Seems like another, more elaborate joke.

All these joke sites seem to have spun off the movie 2012 where a secret project had built several arks, and tickets were sold at extremely high prices to rich individuals so that when the disaster strikes, they will have a save haven to stay in.

 

[suelange]

Why is it spelled "ARC" in the URL, and "ARK" on the website?

Because he was referring to the survival of circle fragments, not mythical boats.

I registered with this forum just to say this is the funniest thing I've read in a long time. I don't know who you are, Memeticemetic, but I like how your mind works.

Looking forward to reading more of this website's (League of Reason's) content at some point, but for now I have to finish my sardonic review of http://www.arcsurvival.com (and http://www.arcsurvival.net if you can believe it).


Hang in there, dangit.

 

[mikecupcake]

I just saw their pixellated, minimal advert in New Scientist and had to take a look, it's certainly strange and has got to be a scam. Found this discussion from a google search, hello forum. Has anyone tried getting more info via the contact details they give on the .com registration? See here:

http://whois.domaintools.com/arcsurvival.com

 

[FaithlessThinker]

So, "New Scientist" is a scammer's magazine?