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I'm sorry, but I don't buy that for a single second, so you'll have to provide me with some hefty sourceage.
And as armpits already asked: control of what?
I realize that there are monetary interests in all this, but that mostly speaks against the motivations of the AGW deniers.
However, I think you are actually being somewhat naive if you think all the people involved here are sinister powermongers who are vying for "control" - whatever kind of control that would actually be. No, I don't even think the deniers are evil either, but it's a perfectly natural reaction to defend one's income (let's just use that word), even to the point of cognitive dissonance.
And most of the proponents of AGW are just regular scientists, who I should think are fully aware of the fact that "control", in any particularly important shape or form, will never really be theirs.
You may think I'm being naive here, but I think we've all seen enough about the psychology involved in... everything... to know that people generally aren't black & white versions of good & evil.
I mean, I accept AGW, and I am pretty sure I'm not out for control, but to make a better future for our world.
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In your response to armpits, you mention that it's "control of human behavior".
If you could elaborate on that, and comment on it in light of what I have already asked?
Also, IJ has a point: your rhetoric sounds... eerily familiar.
I mean, I may think "the right" are loonies and engaging in irresponsible behavior (to put it mildly), but I don't think for a minute there is a hoax or conspiracy going on.
That is just unrealistic, and so, I think, is your claim, which is why I'd like for you to (try to) substantiate it. Otherwise I'll just dismiss it entirely, as will everyone else, I should think.
tuxbox said:Gnug215 said:Uh, so you've established their agenda. Can I ask why they're doing this and what they're gaining from it?
What's the motivation of propagating this supposed hoax?
Control
I'm sorry, but I don't buy that for a single second, so you'll have to provide me with some hefty sourceage.
And as armpits already asked: control of what?
I realize that there are monetary interests in all this, but that mostly speaks against the motivations of the AGW deniers.
However, I think you are actually being somewhat naive if you think all the people involved here are sinister powermongers who are vying for "control" - whatever kind of control that would actually be. No, I don't even think the deniers are evil either, but it's a perfectly natural reaction to defend one's income (let's just use that word), even to the point of cognitive dissonance.
And most of the proponents of AGW are just regular scientists, who I should think are fully aware of the fact that "control", in any particularly important shape or form, will never really be theirs.
You may think I'm being naive here, but I think we've all seen enough about the psychology involved in... everything... to know that people generally aren't black & white versions of good & evil.
I mean, I accept AGW, and I am pretty sure I'm not out for control, but to make a better future for our world.
[Addition]
In your response to armpits, you mention that it's "control of human behavior".
If you could elaborate on that, and comment on it in light of what I have already asked?
Also, IJ has a point: your rhetoric sounds... eerily familiar.
I mean, I may think "the right" are loonies and engaging in irresponsible behavior (to put it mildly), but I don't think for a minute there is a hoax or conspiracy going on.
That is just unrealistic, and so, I think, is your claim, which is why I'd like for you to (try to) substantiate it. Otherwise I'll just dismiss it entirely, as will everyone else, I should think.