another German Creationist movie

[Shezario]

so I stumbled upon this video, its a doku in german specifically promoting Allah as creator of everything out of nothing.
feel free to comment and bring them some reason. the german creationist community is easier to attack then the american since its not as established.

 

[Sando]

I do understand a bit of german, but not enough to actually get into an argument. So, is there anything in there worth the attention or is it just the normal crap?

 

[Inferno]

It's just a lot of speculation with the underlying "godditit and itsmagicabrakadabra" so the title the "scientific" downfall of evolution is already wrong.
The guy then says (at roughly 2:40) How the earth is the ONLY planet of ALL the planets to have an atmosphere and can support life. "WOAH tiger, slow down. We don't know that." That's what popps to my mind every 10 or so seconds.
Just the normal CrAP.

 

[ThetaOmega]

It got as far as the words "Harun Yahya" before it lost all credibility.
If someone could provide a translation I'd be happy to tear the argument a new one.

 

[Inferno]

Everything in brackets is my note to what is being said in the video.

Human beings live in a Universe that has aproximately 250billion Galaxies. And each of these galaxies has aprox 300billion Stars. Each of these incredible systems follow a given set of rules and it all underlies a ~great order" or set order. Every part of the Universe isintelligently planned and in a harmonic equilibrium with the whole.

The earth only takes a vanishingly small part of space in this universe, however it is an amazing system that is constructed on many different and balanced wights. (He means ecological systems, fyi) Contrary to ALL other celestial objects, the earth has an atmosphere and a surface that can support life. Water, one of the basic building blocks for life covers a great surface area. Temperature, orbit around the sun and surface of the earth point to the assumption that this planet has ben designed to sustain life. Earth is inhabited by an abundance of living creatures. Millions of kinds of animals and plants live on this earth in PERFECT HARMONY. This balance is SO abiding that without the intervention of humans, this would go on forever. But how did this harmony start to exist? If you look at the creatures on earth, you see a perfect plan. (or clear, but perfect fits better) All creatures are fitted with immensely complex systems that make it possible for them to do their tasks perfectly. Since life is planned and designed, (not having heared further, I bet he's gonna say: ~we know there must be a designer") there must be a designer. (wow, I'm good ) Since the dawn of his history, the designer himself shows himself to human beings. It is Allah, who created the heavens and the earths from nothing, the creator of all life. In the 19th century, a theory was formulated that denies this obvious proof of creation. The theory states that the creatures on this earth were NOT made by Allah but that they arose in a process of random events. The founder of evolutionary theory was the amateur-biologist Charles Darwin. Darwin published his theory in 1859 in his book ~On the Origins of Species". The book soon became very popular, though the scientific context had nothing to do with that but rather its ideological implications. Darwins theory was a significant pillar of materialistic philosophy, which denies the existence of Allah. Proponents of said philosophy were Darwins most staunch followers. The founder of dialectic materialism, Karl Marx, dedicated his famous book to Darwin, ~The Capital". (Capital meaning money) In the book he sent to Darwin, he wrote with his own hand: ~To Charles Darwin, from a devoted admirer."
According to Darwins theory, all creatures have a single anscestor. Apparently, through simple small steps over a long period of time the differences between animals have formed. Darwin could not produce a SINGLE piece of evidence for this and he knew of the many facts that showed his theory was wrong. In a complementary chapter in his book, he titled these problems ~Difficulties on Theory", Chapter 6 and accepted them. Darwin hoped that these difficulties would go away with the increase in scientific knowledge, but the exact contrary happend. The progress of science soon disprooved all of Darwins ideas, one after the other.

 

[Sando]

Muslim creationists are so boring... they don't even use any different arguments than christians, except those where the Quran says some bullshit about "geology" and "astronomy". Can't they at least put up a fight?

Fight as in an intellectual fight, of course...

 

[Inferno]

Muslim creationists are so boring... they don't even use any different arguments than christians, except those where the Quran says some bullshit about "geology" and "astronomy". Can't they at least put up a fight?

Fight as in an intellectual fight, of course...

At least they're entertaining... Just like the Christian creationists are entertaining.

 

[Mapp]

From my limited understanding of German, this is the exact same argument made by American creationists: The universe is too complicated to come from random events. The same mischaracterization of evolution coupled with the same false dichotomy argument. Also, I note the guy couldn't even find a map of the solar system that accurately demonstrates planetary size and distance. I'm almost surprised he didn't use the Ptolomeic flat plane Earth with stars suspended above it model.

 

[Inferno]

From my limited understanding of German, this is the exact same argument made by American creationists: The universe is too complicated to come from random events. The same mischaracterization of evolution coupled with the same false dichotomy argument. Also, I note the guy couldn't even find a map of the solar system that accurately demonstrates planetary size and distance. I'm almost surprised he didn't use the Ptolomeic flat plane Earth with stars suspended above it model.

Note: I posted a translation from german into english a few posts above, so no need for rudamentary knowledge in german from your part needed. Just read and laugh.