lordhathor
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The following is a forum topic and quotations from it. No point was left out, only ad-hom and posts like "why bother debating religion" and the like.
I am an Atheist. I was recently told by a Christian that the only evidence they have FOR god is that I can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is NO god.
I invite any christians or theists to prove there is no allah, or flying spaghetti monter, Zeus, or bigfoot.
Thanks.
My honest answer, I can't prove those don't exist. Has this shaken my faith in any way? No
I'm glad that you don't need any reason, logical or otherwise, to believe extraordinarily unbelievable things. I hope you don't base the rest of your life on that sort of logic.
Prove bigfoot is real.
Prove god is real.
Religion is called such because it is a faith. If Christianity, or Atheism, or any other belief system could be proven, there would only be one religion which everyone would have to accept.
Faith means belief based on absolutely no evidence, or possible in direct contradiction to evidence.
People who have "faith" and mean it are not my problem.
I find the idea of faith to be stupid, but that's fine.
It's the people who try to justify their beliefs by sullying science that bother me.
Atheist is not a belief system, it's a lack thereof, fyi.
Correct.
It's the belief that there is no God or supreme being of any kind that gave intelligent design to this world, and the world came to be by random chance. That is a belief system.
incorrect.
If atheism is a belief, not collecting stamps is a hobby.
If atheism is a belief, not believing in bigfoot is a belief.
If atheism is a belief, nudity is a matching outfit.
Atheism has nothing to do with the origins of the universe, or anything else besides whether or not there is a theistic god.
However, NO valid or accepted scientific theory states that the universe came to be through random chance. Unless you have a ridiculously broad definition of "random and "chance".
You should study more.
For example, check out abiogenesis and the big bang theory. Check the Miller/Urey experiment.
First off, don't worry, I will. It's my choice of belief and it has yet to hurt me or anyone and makes more sense to me than anything most atheists argue.
Second, you are the one asking us to disprove bigfoot, so don't you think you should prove him first?
And third, I, personally, don't "sully" science. I know some science, but, again, anything I have learned of it has yet to shake me in my faith.
Believing in something for admitedly no legitimate reason "makes sense" to you? Interesting.
you are the one asking us to disprove bigfoot, so don't you think you should prove him first?
hey, look at that. You've made my argument for me.
Now, prove your god plz.
(PS- we have pictures and VIDEOS of big foot. Got any videos of god?)
Flaming people for their faiths is cool brah,
you know, you flaming people makes every other atheist out there look good. I'm sure they will thank you broski
Oh, hey brofist. Prove god isn't real.
I don't think you understand what "flaming" is.
I am making a simple polite request for the purpose of proving a point.
Should I take it from you ad-hominem attack that you have no answer for my questions?
I like you.
i like you too. Let's be BFFs.
Militant Atheism, which appears to be your drug of choice, is actually a belief system. You argue your point of view, and try to convert others to it.
I am not a "militant atheist". I am a "strong atheist". I make the claim that there is no god, only to the extent that I claim there is no big foot or loch ness monster. I can point out several simple reasons why a god is improbable, but like any man of science, I won't say it's impossible. I also won't say the flying spaghetti monster is impossible.
I don't try to convert people. I try to de-convert them. Everyone is born an atheist.
The type of atheist who doesn't wield it like a belief system, is the one who doesn't wear it like a badge of honor.
I don't think you understand what a belief system is. I am an atheist only as a result of my true sense of pride, or "badge of honor", and that is my free thought, and critical thinking skills.
How was the universe created? please answer this Atheist iim dying to know.
There are so many things wrong with this.
1: I don't know. Does that make you uncomfortable? Are you SO concerned that there might be something you don't know, that you're willing to accept the first wild and logically improbable claim you come across, and build your entire life around it?
2: Actually, we do have some good ideas. The big bang is one. To understand the big bang, and "what banged", you have to understand the physics of space/time. M theory actually puts forward a good hypothesis about the origin, or start, of the "bang", and that is 2 dimentional membranes collided, and matter was the result. That's not a real theory though. Just a hypothesis. The honest answer is, we don't know.
Yet.
But when you claim to have the answer..... but base it on absolutely nothing... and then stop looking for a better answer....
well, they didn't call it the dark ages because it was dark.
3: If you demand an origin for the universe (which by the way, is the source of our laws of physics, and without a universe, you don't really have to follow the rules of said universe, but I digress), if you demand that, then why not demand an origin for your god?
Yeah. Again, it has yet to hurt me or anyone else, and I don't see any reason not to. I look at science, the world, nature, physics, and, quite honestly, God is the only answer that makes sense to me as to how it all holds together.
"Magical sky daddy made everything" makes sense to you?
Q u o t e:
I have a cup of water.
I leave it on the table for 3 hours.
When I come back, trust me, it won't be purple drank.
It will still be water;
Nothing can't make something.
Sure, not in our universe.... which was formed post-big-bang.
You mean ridiculous claims like you "knowing" there is no god of any sort?
I'm actually not a theist. I just don't like the hypocrisy of "shooting down" ridiculous claims with different ridiculous claims.
Who here made that claim? I didn't. I just know that YOU don't know there IS a god, and that furthermore, there is no evidence for a god, and no good reason to believe in one.
I am an Atheist. I was recently told by a Christian that the only evidence they have FOR god is that I can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is NO god.
I invite any christians or theists to prove there is no allah, or flying spaghetti monter, Zeus, or bigfoot.
Thanks.
My honest answer, I can't prove those don't exist. Has this shaken my faith in any way? No
I'm glad that you don't need any reason, logical or otherwise, to believe extraordinarily unbelievable things. I hope you don't base the rest of your life on that sort of logic.
Prove bigfoot is real.
Prove god is real.
Religion is called such because it is a faith. If Christianity, or Atheism, or any other belief system could be proven, there would only be one religion which everyone would have to accept.
Faith means belief based on absolutely no evidence, or possible in direct contradiction to evidence.
People who have "faith" and mean it are not my problem.
I find the idea of faith to be stupid, but that's fine.
It's the people who try to justify their beliefs by sullying science that bother me.
Atheist is not a belief system, it's a lack thereof, fyi.
Correct.
It's the belief that there is no God or supreme being of any kind that gave intelligent design to this world, and the world came to be by random chance. That is a belief system.
incorrect.
If atheism is a belief, not collecting stamps is a hobby.
If atheism is a belief, not believing in bigfoot is a belief.
If atheism is a belief, nudity is a matching outfit.
Atheism has nothing to do with the origins of the universe, or anything else besides whether or not there is a theistic god.
However, NO valid or accepted scientific theory states that the universe came to be through random chance. Unless you have a ridiculously broad definition of "random and "chance".
You should study more.
For example, check out abiogenesis and the big bang theory. Check the Miller/Urey experiment.
First off, don't worry, I will. It's my choice of belief and it has yet to hurt me or anyone and makes more sense to me than anything most atheists argue.
Second, you are the one asking us to disprove bigfoot, so don't you think you should prove him first?
And third, I, personally, don't "sully" science. I know some science, but, again, anything I have learned of it has yet to shake me in my faith.
Believing in something for admitedly no legitimate reason "makes sense" to you? Interesting.
you are the one asking us to disprove bigfoot, so don't you think you should prove him first?
hey, look at that. You've made my argument for me.
Now, prove your god plz.
(PS- we have pictures and VIDEOS of big foot. Got any videos of god?)
Flaming people for their faiths is cool brah,
you know, you flaming people makes every other atheist out there look good. I'm sure they will thank you broski
Oh, hey brofist. Prove god isn't real.
I don't think you understand what "flaming" is.
I am making a simple polite request for the purpose of proving a point.
Should I take it from you ad-hominem attack that you have no answer for my questions?
I like you.
i like you too. Let's be BFFs.
Militant Atheism, which appears to be your drug of choice, is actually a belief system. You argue your point of view, and try to convert others to it.
I am not a "militant atheist". I am a "strong atheist". I make the claim that there is no god, only to the extent that I claim there is no big foot or loch ness monster. I can point out several simple reasons why a god is improbable, but like any man of science, I won't say it's impossible. I also won't say the flying spaghetti monster is impossible.
I don't try to convert people. I try to de-convert them. Everyone is born an atheist.
The type of atheist who doesn't wield it like a belief system, is the one who doesn't wear it like a badge of honor.
I don't think you understand what a belief system is. I am an atheist only as a result of my true sense of pride, or "badge of honor", and that is my free thought, and critical thinking skills.
How was the universe created? please answer this Atheist iim dying to know.
There are so many things wrong with this.
1: I don't know. Does that make you uncomfortable? Are you SO concerned that there might be something you don't know, that you're willing to accept the first wild and logically improbable claim you come across, and build your entire life around it?
2: Actually, we do have some good ideas. The big bang is one. To understand the big bang, and "what banged", you have to understand the physics of space/time. M theory actually puts forward a good hypothesis about the origin, or start, of the "bang", and that is 2 dimentional membranes collided, and matter was the result. That's not a real theory though. Just a hypothesis. The honest answer is, we don't know.
Yet.
But when you claim to have the answer..... but base it on absolutely nothing... and then stop looking for a better answer....
well, they didn't call it the dark ages because it was dark.
3: If you demand an origin for the universe (which by the way, is the source of our laws of physics, and without a universe, you don't really have to follow the rules of said universe, but I digress), if you demand that, then why not demand an origin for your god?
Yeah. Again, it has yet to hurt me or anyone else, and I don't see any reason not to. I look at science, the world, nature, physics, and, quite honestly, God is the only answer that makes sense to me as to how it all holds together.
"Magical sky daddy made everything" makes sense to you?
Q u o t e:
I have a cup of water.
I leave it on the table for 3 hours.
When I come back, trust me, it won't be purple drank.
It will still be water;
Nothing can't make something.
Sure, not in our universe.... which was formed post-big-bang.
You mean ridiculous claims like you "knowing" there is no god of any sort?
I'm actually not a theist. I just don't like the hypocrisy of "shooting down" ridiculous claims with different ridiculous claims.
Who here made that claim? I didn't. I just know that YOU don't know there IS a god, and that furthermore, there is no evidence for a god, and no good reason to believe in one.